Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During the GOP Debate?

digitusmedius · Dec 16, 2015

Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

"I'm having my staff look at the transcripts of the debate right now," Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told reporters on Wednesday, according to The Hill. "Any time you deal with numbers... the question is 'Is that classified or not?' or is there an open source reference to it."

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

"Let me be very careful when answering this, because I don’t think national television in front of 15 million people is the place to discuss classified information," Rubio said. "So let me just be very clear. There is nothing that we are allowed to do under this bill that we could not do before."

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Soho gator · Dec 16, 2015

digitusmedius said:
Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Wow,

I missed that exchange. That's an election disqualifier. So far Trump, Cruz, Christie Jeb! and Carson have disqualified themselves. This will get ugly fast.

Zyphlin · Dec 16, 2015

If its found he actually did share some classified information, the next few weeks will be really fun watching Democrats who are constantly giving Clinton a pass go hog wild at Cruz while watching Republicans who have been beating the Clinton drum continually will excuse it as not a big deal.

That said, my guess is he'll have just barely skirted the edges and not actually revealed classified info

RBIII · Dec 16, 2015

digitusmedius said:
Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Most people already assumed government had access to all phone records, this seems hardly headline worthy. The outrage should be about the fact, not that he said it.

Montecresto · Dec 16, 2015

Zyphlin said:
If its found he actually did share some classified information, the next few weeks will be really fun watching Democrats who are constantly giving Clinton a pass go hog wild at Cruz while watching Republicans who have been beating the Clinton drum continually will excuse it as not a big deal.

That said, my guess is he'll have just barely skirted the edges and not actually revealed classified info

I have a novel idea, how about we prosecute Ted and Hillary.

Excon · Dec 16, 2015

Zyphlin said:
If its found he actually did share some classified information, the next few weeks will be really fun watching Democrats who are constantly giving Clinton a pass go hog wild at Cruz while watching Republicans who have been beating the Clinton drum continually will excuse it as not a big deal.

That said, my guess is he'll have just barely skirted the edges and not actually revealed classified info

If he did, I doubt those he pissed off (House and Senate Republicans) will be excusing his behavior.

roughdraft274 · Dec 16, 2015

Zyphlin said:
If its found he actually did share some classified information, the next few weeks will be really fun watching Democrats who are constantly giving Clinton a pass go hog wild at Cruz while watching Republicans who have been beating the Clinton drum continually will excuse it as not a big deal.

That said, my guess is he'll have just barely skirted the edges and not actually revealed classified info

I don't really find this damning towards Cruz. I don't really find the information all that amazing. I thought it was already widely known.

But I do find a difference between someone emailing classified info on to other government workers that are directly involved in the dealings and saying them on live tv for literally anyone and everyone to hear.

Soho gator · Dec 16, 2015

roughdraft274 said:
I don't really find this damning towards Cruz. I don't really find the information all that amazing. I thought it was already widely known.

But I do find a difference between someone emailing classified info on to other government workers that are directly involved in the dealings and saying them on live tv for literally anyone and everyone to hear.

he's probably obliquely referring to the capabilities of this place. I'd sure like to know what's going on there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

JunkyardDogma · Dec 16, 2015

Soho gator said:
he's probably obliquely referring to the capabilities of this place. I'd sure like to know what's going on there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

That's not hard to figure out, they are downloading the Internet, and sorting though it, along with cell phones and all other electronic data sent around, into, or out of the country. You don't have the "friend" the NSA, they already "friended" you, and your phone, and credit cards, and license plates, etc.

Fenton · Dec 16, 2015

digitusmedius said:
Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Cruz is horribly unfit but Hillary is the right person for the job ??

That's some selective outrage you got there.

Soho gator · Dec 16, 2015

Fenton said:
Cruz is horribly unfit but Hillary is the right person for the job ??

That's some selective outrage you got there.

She manifestly better than Cruz and every other candidate other than Paul and Kasich.

JANFU · Dec 16, 2015

Zyphlin said:
If its found he actually did share some classified information, the next few weeks will be really fun watching Democrats who are constantly giving Clinton a pass go hog wild at Cruz while watching Republicans who have been beating the Clinton drum continually will excuse it as not a big deal.

That said, my guess is he'll have just barely skirted the edges and not actually revealed classified info

Cruz on FP is a dud, seems that way with classified information. Rubio had the right answer.

JANFU · Dec 16, 2015

Excon said:
If he did, I doubt those he pissed off (House and Senate Republicans) will be excusing his behavior.

He has indeed left a trail of enemies in his wake.

JANFU · Dec 16, 2015

Fenton said:
Cruz is horribly unfit but Hillary is the right person for the job ??

That's some selective outrage you got there.

Only 1 Dem candidate. Many dems cannot stand her.

SmartCat · Dec 16, 2015

JANFU said:
He has indeed left a trail of enemies in his wake.

The adjective I have heard for Ted Cruz is "reptilian." He is as likable as a poisonous snake slithering thorough the grass when you are walking barefoot.

JANFU · Dec 16, 2015

SmartCat said:
The adjective I have heard for Ted Cruz is "reptilian." He is as likable as a poisonous snake slithering thorough the grass when you are walking barefoot.

I heard his wife is out on the circuit trying to mend fences he ripped to shreds.
Though there is one thing I do like about Cruz. He used to have Canadian Citizenship.

danarhea · Dec 16, 2015

digitusmedius said:
Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Here's the deal. Yes, Rubio DID accuse Cruz of leaking classified material during the debate. Cruz is NOT on the intelligence committee. Rubio is. When Rubio told Cruz during the debate that he was leaking classified material, he confirmed that classified material exists, and it is now public knowledge. Want to know what classified material was leaked? That, under the USA Freedom Act, 100% of people's phones are now monitored. Under the Patriot Act, only about 30% of phones were monitored by the government. And who was pushing for passage of the USA Freedom Act?

President Obama, who promised to end spying on the American people, but instead turned into Bush on steroids. And calling it the USA Freedom Act is the ultimate Orwellian act. Slavery is freedom, folks.

Sometimes, information needs to be leaked, so that the American people realize that a police state is just around the corner. And it isn't just Bush who wanted to end freedom as we know it in America. Both parties, Republican and Democratic, are up to their ****ing eyeballs in the deception the government is pulling on the American people.

Ted Cruz - You are a complete ****ing asshole. I would vote for Bozo the Clown before I voted for you. But thank you for letting this information slip out. You have done your country a much needed service. And thank you too, Rubio, for confirming it.

DA60 · Dec 16, 2015

Oh big whoop.

I assumed it was close to 100% already.

I am DEFINITELY no fan of Cruz...but this is NO big deal and I hope he gets in ZERO hot water for what he said.

Visbek · Dec 16, 2015

danarhea said:
Here's the deal. Yes, Rubio DID accuse Cruz of leaking classified material during the debate. Cruz is NOT on the intelligence committee. Rubio is. When Rubio told Cruz during the debate that he was leaking classified material, he confirmed that classified material exists, and it is now public knowledge.

He didn't confirm Cruz's assertions. He said "I don't want to talk about it" and skirted the issue.

Sometimes, information needs to be leaked, so that the American people realize that a police state is just around the corner. And it isn't just Bush who wanted to end freedom as we know it in America. Both parties, Republican and Democratic, are up to their ****ing eyeballs in the deception the government is pulling on the American people.

Meh

Surveillance systems and police states don't really take all that long to set up. Do you really think anyone could have freed the GDR, because it took a few years for the Stasi to get its act together?

I don't like what either administration has done, but I don't think it's rational to suggest that either wants to "end freedom in America." Both want to protect US citizens; both have overreached, in different ways. That's very typical of Presidents during times of stress and war.

Riveroaks · Dec 16, 2015

digitusmedius said:
Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Rubio wisely called attention to the issue without disclosing anything further.

It was a pretty good Rubio moment.

And it was somewhat of a gaff for Cruz.

Zyph is right ... the DEMs will be all over this soon.

Montecresto · Dec 16, 2015

danarhea said:
Here's the deal. Yes, Rubio DID accuse Cruz of leaking classified material during the debate. Cruz is NOT on the intelligence committee. Rubio is. When Rubio told Cruz during the debate that he was leaking classified material, he confirmed that classified material exists, and it is now public knowledge. Want to know what classified material was leaked? That, under the USA Freedom Act, 100% of people's phones are now monitored. Under the Patriot Act, only about 30% of phones were monitored by the government. And who was pushing for passage of the USA Freedom Act?

President Obama, who promised to end spying on the American people, but instead turned into Bush on steroids. And calling it the USA Freedom Act is the ultimate Orwellian act. Slavery is freedom, folks.

Sometimes, information needs to be leaked, so that the American people realize that a police state is just around the corner. And it isn't just Bush who wanted to end freedom as we know it in America. Both parties, Republican and Democratic, are up to their ****ing eyeballs in the deception the government is pulling on the American people.

Ted Cruz - You are a complete ****ing asshole. I would vote for Bozo the Clown before I voted for you. But thank you for letting this information slip out. You have done your country a much needed service. And thank you too, Rubio, for confirming it.

Very spot on analysis!!

Montecresto · Dec 16, 2015

Visbek said:
He didn't confirm Cruz's assertions. He said "I don't want to talk about it" and skirted the issue.

Meh

Surveillance systems and police states don't really take all that long to set up. Do you really think anyone could have freed the GDR, because it took a few years for the Stasi to get its act together?

I don't like what either administration has done, but I don't think it's rational to suggest that either wants to "end freedom in America." Both want to protect US citizens; both have overreached, in different ways. That's very typical of Presidents during times of stress and war.

Must be nice to live in the Polly Anna.

Grim17 · Dec 16, 2015

digitusmedius said:
Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During The GOP Debate?

And this is the schmuck who's supposed to be one of the smartest republicans. Or did he do it on purpose, à la Edward Snowden? Either way, goat or hero, he should be in deep **** soon. How quickly the republican House intel committee chair jumped on this indicates how eager republicans in general same to despise Cruz. He is nothing if not an asshole.

Highlights:

Even Rubio realized on the spot that Cruz ****ed up:

Whatever the outcome of this, Cruz has added new evidence for how horribly unfit he is for any elected (or appointed, for that matter) government office. If it's found that he revealed secret information, even if unintentionally, and suffers no consequences, Edward Snowden should be welcomed back to the country.

Is Ted Cruz on the senate intelligence committee?

I only ask because as far as I know, senators who aren't on the Senate Intelligence Committee, are not privy to classified information.

jamesrage · Dec 16, 2015

Grim17 said:
Is Ted Cruz on the senate intelligence committee?

I only ask because as far as I know, senators who aren't on the Senate Intelligence Committee, are not privy to classified information.

How dare you try to stop this Cruz bashing with facts.

Grim17 · Dec 16, 2015

jamesrage said:
How dare you try to stop this Cruz bashing with facts.

I'm just a fricken wet blanket... Baaah Humbug.

Did Ted Cruz Reveal Classified Information During the GOP Debate?

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