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Congress Drops All Pretense: Quietly Turns CISA Into A Full On Surveillance Bill

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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-turns-cisa-into-full-surveillance-bill.shtml

Remember CISA? The "Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act"? It's getting much much worse as Congress and the administration look to ram it through -- and in the process, removing any pretense that it's not a surveillance bill. As you may recall, Congress and the White House have been pushing for a "cybersecurity" bill for a few years now, that has never actually been a cybersecurity bill. Senator Ron Wyden was one of the only people in Congress willing to stand up and directly say what it was: "it's a surveillance bill by another name." And, by now, you should know that when Senator Wyden says that there's a secret interpretation of a bill that will increase surveillance and is at odds with the public's understanding of a bill, you should know to listen. He's said so in the past and has been right... multiple times.

Either way, a version of CISA passed the House a while back, with at least some elements of privacy protection included. Then, a few months ago it passed the Senate in a much weaker state. The two different versions need to be reconciled, and it's been worked on. However, as we noted recently, the intelligence community has basically taken over the process and more or less stripped out what few privacy protections there were. And, the latest is that it's getting worse. Not only is Congress looking to include it in the end of year omnibus bill -- basically a "must pass" bill -- to make sure it gets passed, but it's clearly dropping all pretense that CISA isn't about surveillance. Here's what we're hearing from people involved in the latest negotiations. The latest version of CISA that they're looking to put into the omnibus:


1.) Removes the prohibition on information being shared with the NSA, allowing it to be shared directly with NSA (and DOD), rather than first having to go through DHS. While DHS isn't necessarily wonderful, it's a lot better than NSA. And, of course, if this were truly about cybersecurity, not surveillance, DHS makes a lot more sense than NSA.

2.) Directly removes the restrictions on using this information for "surveillance" activities. You can't get much more direct than that, right?

3.) Removes limitations that government can only use this information for cybersecurity purposes and allows it to be used to go after any other criminal activity as well. Obviously, this then creates tremendous incentives to push for greater and greater information collection, which clearly will be abused. We've just seen how the DEA has regularly abused its powers to collect info. You think agencies like the DEA and others won't make use of CISA too?

4.) Removes the requirement to "scrub" personal information unrelated to a cybersecurity threat before sharing that information. This was the key point that everyone kept making about why the information should go to DHS first -- where DHS would be in charge of this "scrub". The "scrub" process was a bit exaggerated in the first place, but it was at least something of a privacy protection. However, it appears that the final version being pushed removes the scrub requirement (along with the requirement to go to DHS) and instead leaves the question of scrubbing to the "discretion" of whichever agency gets the information. Guess how that's going to go?

In short: while before Congress could at least pretend that CISA was about cybersecurity, rather than surveillance, in this mad dash to get it shoved through, they've dropped all pretense and have stripped every last privacy protection, expanded the scope of the bill, and made it quite clear that it's a very broad surveillance bill that can be widely used and abused by all parts of the government. There is still some hesitation by some as to whether or not this bill belongs in the omnibus bill, or if it should go through the regular process, with a debate and a full vote on this entirely new and different version of CISA. So, now would be a good time to speak out, letting your elected officials and the White House know that (1) CISA should not be in the omnibus and (2) that we don't need another surveillance bill. In the meantime, if Congress were actually serious about cybersecurity, they'd be ramping up the acceptance and use of encryption, rather than trying to undermine it.
 
Whoa. Not good at all.

Another frightening aspect of the expansion of the surveillance (dare I say "police" or "proto police") state we've seen lately is that both parties are pushing it. Chances are both nominees will end up being fine with this kind of thing.
 
Whoa. Not good at all.

Another frightening aspect of the expansion of the surveillance (dare I say "police" or "proto police") state we've seen lately is that both parties are pushing it. Chances are both nominees will end up being fine with this kind of thing.

Blatant attempts to increase the government's power and create more loopholes for them to impede our rights almost always have bipartisan support. They can't agree on anything except that the government needs more free reign to do whatever it wants. Kinda suspect if you ask me. :shrug:
 
Thoughts?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-turns-cisa-into-full-surveillance-bill.shtml

Remember CISA? The "Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act"? It's getting much much worse as Congress and the administration look to ram it through -- and in the process, removing any pretense that it's not a surveillance bill. As you may recall, Congress and the White House have been pushing for a "cybersecurity" bill for a few years now, that has never actually been a cybersecurity bill. Senator Ron Wyden was one of the only people in Congress willing to stand up and directly say what it was: "it's a surveillance bill by another name." And, by now, you should know that when Senator Wyden says that there's a secret interpretation of a bill that will increase surveillance and is at odds with the public's understanding of a bill, you should know to listen. He's said so in the past and has been right... multiple times.

Either way, a version of CISA passed the House a while back, with at least some elements of privacy protection included. Then, a few months ago it passed the Senate in a much weaker state. The two different versions need to be reconciled, and it's been worked on. However, as we noted recently, the intelligence community has basically taken over the process and more or less stripped out what few privacy protections there were. And, the latest is that it's getting worse. Not only is Congress looking to include it in the end of year omnibus bill -- basically a "must pass" bill -- to make sure it gets passed, but it's clearly dropping all pretense that CISA isn't about surveillance. Here's what we're hearing from people involved in the latest negotiations. The latest version of CISA that they're looking to put into the omnibus:


1.) Removes the prohibition on information being shared with the NSA, allowing it to be shared directly with NSA (and DOD), rather than first having to go through DHS. While DHS isn't necessarily wonderful, it's a lot better than NSA. And, of course, if this were truly about cybersecurity, not surveillance, DHS makes a lot more sense than NSA.

2.) Directly removes the restrictions on using this information for "surveillance" activities. You can't get much more direct than that, right?

3.) Removes limitations that government can only use this information for cybersecurity purposes and allows it to be used to go after any other criminal activity as well. Obviously, this then creates tremendous incentives to push for greater and greater information collection, which clearly will be abused. We've just seen how the DEA has regularly abused its powers to collect info. You think agencies like the DEA and others won't make use of CISA too?

4.) Removes the requirement to "scrub" personal information unrelated to a cybersecurity threat before sharing that information. This was the key point that everyone kept making about why the information should go to DHS first -- where DHS would be in charge of this "scrub". The "scrub" process was a bit exaggerated in the first place, but it was at least something of a privacy protection. However, it appears that the final version being pushed removes the scrub requirement (along with the requirement to go to DHS) and instead leaves the question of scrubbing to the "discretion" of whichever agency gets the information. Guess how that's going to go?

In short: while before Congress could at least pretend that CISA was about cybersecurity, rather than surveillance, in this mad dash to get it shoved through, they've dropped all pretense and have stripped every last privacy protection, expanded the scope of the bill, and made it quite clear that it's a very broad surveillance bill that can be widely used and abused by all parts of the government. There is still some hesitation by some as to whether or not this bill belongs in the omnibus bill, or if it should go through the regular process, with a debate and a full vote on this entirely new and different version of CISA. So, now would be a good time to speak out, letting your elected officials and the White House know that (1) CISA should not be in the omnibus and (2) that we don't need another surveillance bill. In the meantime, if Congress were actually serious about cybersecurity, they'd be ramping up the acceptance and use of encryption, rather than trying to undermine it.

Big Brother is here for you. Don't worry about it, if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Don't you want to be safe?
 
I agree. We've traveled quite a far piece down the slippery slope,
doing so much to "protect America" that it's really not America anymore.
 
Big Brother is here for you. Don't worry about it, if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Don't you want to be safe?

Freedom of speech? Right to privacy? Citizen, do you want the terrorists to win? It's one or the other I'm afraid.
 
Whoa. Not good at all.

Another frightening aspect of the expansion of the surveillance (dare I say "police" or "proto police") state we've seen lately is that both parties are pushing it. Chances are both nominees will end up being fine with this kind of thing.

Hillary would be without question, not so Bernie.
 
Hillary would be without question, not so Bernie.

Ok, that is likely true. Bernie sounds like one of the very few politicians who say what they mean and genuinely want to do the right thing for the right reasons. But, it seems very likely that Hillary will get the nomination.
 
This has been a concern for over 40 years now.

In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide.
If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

Senator Church, 1975
 
Ok, that is likely true. Bernie sounds like one of the very few politicians who say what they mean and genuinely want to do the right thing for the right reasons. But, it seems very likely that Hillary will get the nomination.

Yes indeed, I agree with you.
 
My cynical self is not surprised in the least. We have the government we deserve.
 
Jesus look at this source.. Can we actually read it before taking anyone else's word for what they think it says?

Tim-
 
Jesus look at this source.. Can we actually read it before taking anyone else's word for what they think it says?

Tim-

It's a legitimate source for tech related news.
 
I am for surveillance, complete and constant, as long as we start with suspected perpetrators who feed at the public trough.
Politicians, being busy people, should have head of the line status. I wonder which ones will be first to wear sound recording devices 24/7.....
 
Sure, I know, but we're talking about legislation here.. Just sayin.

Tim-

Most industries keep track of legislation that may effect them.
 


Merry Christmas!
 
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