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Iraq Seeks To Cancel Security Agreement With US, Will Invite Russia To Fight ISIS

But it's not about "Muslims" cozying up to the Russians. It's about ASSAD cozying up to the Russians. We were trying to install "moderate rebels" (lol) to fight Assad and ISIS. So we were trying to create a minor fighting force that would immediately be surrounded in a two front war. That was our dumbass strategy. Not to mention those "moderate rebels" turned out to be sympathetic to ISIS and Al-Qaeda anyway. It was a mind-bogglingly stupid strategy.

Mind-bogglingly stupid strategy sums up our Mideast policy since George HW Bush.
 
It's funny watching partisans on both sides finger point. USFP is consistent and knows no political boundaries.

The U.S. Has Already Completed Regime Change In Syria (1949), Iran (1953), Iraq (Twice), Afghanistan (Twice), Turkey, Libya and Other Oil-Rich Countries
 
Mind-bogglingly stupid strategy sums up our Mideast policy since George HW Bush.

Really since Carter who was the first to begin arming Islamic extremists in the Middle East.
 
The Soviets didn't succeed in stabilizing Afghanistan the last time they got involved in the area....
 
The Soviets didn't succeed in stabilizing Afghanistan the last time they got involved in the area....

Soviets don't exist any more...:lamo
 
And Obama's foreign policy failures continue to pile up.
 
I agree, another disaster that turned into yet another disaster. That sums up our greater Middle East foreign policy to date.

It will also end the debate on how well Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq was for the region and the world. ;)

So we should blame Bush for what has happened after 7 years of Obama policy, or lack there of. Bush can be blamed for what mess there was when he left office. Obama is to blame for how much bigger that mess became.

It would be very hard to blame Iraq, especially after Obama abandoned them and threw them to the wolves.
 
So we should blame Bush for what has happened after 7 years of Obama policy, or lack there of. Bush can be blamed for what mess there was when he left office. Obama is to blame for how much bigger that mess became.

It would be very hard to blame Iraq, especially after Obama abandoned them and threw them to the wolves.

Bush 43 is not off the hook just because Obama did not do what Bush 43 would have done in a long term occupation of Iraq. If your idea had any real merit then the voter would have elected someone to ensure a long term occupation as Bush 43 (and crew) wanted.

Obama is not without blame, he just does not get all the blame.
 
The Iraq "government" seems to be very worried about the Kurds. Why they worry more about the Kurds than Iran or Russia is not logical to me but that seems to be the case. Obama, with mere months in office left, is not even pretending to play any more. His "strategy" is simply to mark time and focus on climate change - the "real" immediate threat.

They have an excellent relationship with Turkey. Turkey needs oil/gas. They have oil fields,they want an independent state.
 
It will also end the debate on how well Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq was for the region and the world. ;)

A most perceptive comment, and oh so true. The Dixie Chicks were scorned in public, but they were right the whole time. The system cannot stand hearing the truth spoken, and suppresses it. Assange and Snowden in virtual jails.

All spawned by Bush & Co.
 
So we should blame Bush for what has happened after 7 years of Obama policy, or lack there of. Bush can be blamed for what mess there was when he left office. Obama is to blame for how much bigger that mess became.

It would be very hard to blame Iraq, especially after Obama abandoned them and threw them to the wolves.

To the bolded. Exactly, who would disagree with that? As to the success of Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq, a consensus report by the nations sixteen intelligence services in 2006 reported that the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused an increase in terror, and made the world less safe. And, the Islamic State formed in Iraq in 2006. When Hussein was in control of Iraq, the Iranians weren't, and the Russians were nowhere in the region. Iraq IS Bush's blunder. But yes, Obama's policies in the ME have made matters even worse.
 
And Obama's foreign policy failures continue to pile up.

US Foreign Policy was a disaster before Obama was elected, just to keep it in perspective. He has certainly built upon the failures of his predecessors, no doubt, but the train wreck that is our foreign policy is rather a slow-motion wreck, spanning decades.
 
'Now, in the latest example of just how tenuous Washington’s grip on the region has become, the Iraqi parliament's Security and Defense Committee is calling for the review and cancellation of Baghdad’s security agreement with the US.

“The government and parliament need to review the agreement signed with the United States on security because the United States does not seriously care about its fulfillment,” committee member Hamid al-Mutlaq, a senior Sunni lawmaker told Sputnik on Wednesday. “We demand that it be annulled,” he added.

Who will fill the void you ask? You guessed it:

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"Soon, a meeting [of the committee] with Prime Minister Haider Abadi will be held, at which we will propose cooperating with Russia in carrying out airstrikes against IS and in the fight against terrorism in Iraq," another committee member said earlier this week.'


Iraq Seeks To Cancel Security Agreement With US, Will Invite Russia To Fight ISIS | Zero Hedge


I cannot find a 'well known, respected' source for this...but it IS interesting and I have heard rumblings of this before.


Thoughts?


GOOD NEWS.................Let's bring our boys home and let the Ruskies deal with the quagmire bankrupting them more than they already are..............
 
more evidence that Iraq is a colony of Iran, or at least Baghdad answers to Tehran.
 
A most perceptive comment, and oh so true. The Dixie Chicks were scorned in public, but they were right the whole time. The system cannot stand hearing the truth spoken, and suppresses it. Assange and Snowden in virtual jails.

All spawned by Bush & Co.

That Dixie Chicks nonsense was just creepy.

The lead singer gives one opinion about Bush at a concert and their sales go in the tank.

They sing songs not write laws.

Pathetic.
 
more evidence that Iraq is a colony of Iran, or at least Baghdad answers to Tehran.

I'm pretty sure that prior to WWI, they were both parts of the Ottoman Empire.

They are neighbors, after all, even though the US overthrew Mossadegh and then paid Saddam to wage an 8 year war against Iran.
 
I'm pretty sure that prior to WWI, they were both parts of the Ottoman Empire.

They are neighbors, after all, even though the US overthrew Mossadegh and then paid Saddam to wage an 8 year war against Iran.

When ISIS recently took control of Mosul, there was quite a brouhaha about the failure of US Satellite Intelligence not having seen, or, if seen, not having notified our Allies in Iraq of the approach of these invaders. The US trained Mosul Iraqi Army apparently dropped their weapons and abandoned Mosul. This in the second largest city in Iraq. Smells bad to me. No way US Intelligence missed columns of Toyotas miles long. No air attacks on the columns. No defense of the city. Collusion to deliver the region to Turkey or Kurds or some subservise plan to gain a more CORPORATE friendly regional gov't. Not sure which is certain, but it is obvious that this Mosul situation is about large scale collusion. The US security agreement is with Iraq not the KRG and Barzani. I see Turkey near Mosul to protect ISIS and the remaining Turkish OIL smuggling network now that Russia has shut down the OIL accross the Turkey/Syria border. Our ally in this embroglio, Turkey, is going to give us more fleas. Bomb the crap out of them, and acknowledge having been in bed with a scumbag.
 
I'm pretty sure that prior to WWI, they were both parts of the Ottoman Empire.

They are neighbors, after all, even though the US overthrew Mossadegh and then paid Saddam to wage an 8 year war against Iran.
that's interesting for what it is..and Iran cultivated Shi'a ties during our Iraq war..
Which I suppose is a reason for the close ties now..
Both Maliki and Abadi are stooges of Iran. Abadi being a member of Islamic Dawa Party.
 
When ISIS recently took control of Mosul, there was quite a brouhaha about the failure of US Satellite Intelligence not having seen, or, if seen, not having notified our Allies in Iraq of the approach of these invaders. The US trained Mosul Iraqi Army apparently dropped their weapons and abandoned Mosul. This in the second largest city in Iraq. Smells bad to me. No way US Intelligence missed columns of Toyotas miles long. No air attacks on the columns. No defense of the city. Collusion to deliver the region to Turkey or Kurds or some subservise plan to gain a more CORPORATE friendly regional gov't. Not sure which is certain, but it is obvious that this Mosul situation is about large scale collusion. The US security agreement is with Iraq not the KRG and Barzani. I see Turkey near Mosul to protect ISIS and the remaining Turkish OIL smuggling network now that Russia has shut down the OIL accross the Turkey/Syria border. Our ally in this embroglio, Turkey, is going to give us more fleas. Bomb the crap out of them, and acknowledge having been in bed with a scumbag.
they were seen - how can satellites not see convoys in open desert? Obama dismissed them as JV
 
If this is completely accurate, it will end the debate on how well Putin has outplayed Obama on the international stage.

Really? Sounds like an awesome deal for the United States to me.
 
I'm sure Putin is not interested in extending syrian military operation to the Iraqi territory. But he will undoubtedly keep it in mind and if so called groups of syrian free army operating in Syria start to flee the country to Iraq Putin may keep bombing them there as well possessing a legitimate permission of the Iraqi government.
 
Iraq Seeks To Cancel Security Agreement With US, Will Invite Russia To Fight ISIS.
Thoughts?

It is not so strange that Iraq is sceptical to the abilities of USA to provide security. I believe that many Iraqis have a picture of Obama in their minds approximately as described in the picture below:


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It is not so strange that Iraq is sceptical to the abilities of USA to provide security. I believe that many Iraqis have a picture of Obama in their minds approximately as described in the picture below:


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Actually, since Bush's policy for Iraq caused an increase in global terror, bread the formation of the Islamic State in Iraq in 2006 and has made the world less safe. Iraqis are probably pretty sick of America.
 
More than sick, they hate the US, with good cause.
 
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