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Iraqi politicians, militias warn Abadi against U.S. force deployment

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Iraqi politicians, militias warn Abadi against U.S. force deployment | Reuters

Iraq's ruling alliance and powerful Shi'ite militias say Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi would be digging his own political grave and undermining the fight against Islamic State if he permits the deployment of a new U.S. special operations force in the country.

Washington said on Tuesday it would send troops, expected to number around 200, to Iraq to conduct raids against the ultra-hardline Sunni Muslim militants who have seized swathes of the country's north and west and neighboring Syria.
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Iraq Only Accepts Fraction of U.S. Equipment to Fight ISIS - US News

The Iraqi government has accepted only a fraction of fighting vehicles the U.S. has offered to provide it, indicating leaders in Baghdad desperately holding their country together amid the Islamic State group onslaught may be trying to appease multiple masters.

Amid the rise of the Islamic State group late last year, U.S. News reported the U.S. military was hoarding more than 3,000 fighting vehicles in nearby Kuwait, mostly the mine-resistant, ambush-protected combat trucks known as MRAPs that played a key role in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This stockpile, made up largely of equipment withdrawn from Afghanistan, was designed to give war planners options and bolster Iraq's military forces as they disintegrated in the face of Islamic State group violence.
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You can see Iran with the Shia Militias are not willing to work together with allies against ISIL.
So thoughts are?
I see Iraq moves closer to a split along sectarian lines

Support the Kurd's as they are the only allies the West will have at the end.
 
JANFU said:
You can see Iran with the Shia Militias are not willing to work together with allies against ISIL. So thoughts are? I see Iraq moves closer to a split along sectarian lines Support the Kurd's as they are the only allies the West will have at the end.
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Closer??? They already have, the Sunnis are once more a token in the Government. How/why did the Iraqi Army fall apart so quickly? What part of Iraq is over run?

Don't count on the Kurds- if and when they get a homeland they will tell us where to go and what to do once we get there.... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Closer??? They already have, the Sunnis are once more a token in the Government. How/why did the Iraqi Army fall apart so quickly? What part of Iraq is over run?

Don't count on the Kurds- if and when they get a homeland they will tell us where to go and what to do once we get there.... :peace
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They are loaded down with corruption from Barzani.
Who has all his grandchildren born in US hospitals.

Do Kurds Have Legal Recourse Against Barzanis?
 
JANFU said:
They are loaded down with corruption from Barzani.
Who has all his grandchildren born in US hospitals.
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Dunno what where his grandkids are born has to do with this...

But imagine our poster child Kurds are as corrupt and tribal as the Sunnis and ****tes???? Who'da thunk!???

Quite a mess we thoughtlessly created when we decided democracy could be planted in Iraq.... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Dunno what where his grandkids are born has to do with this...

But imagine our poster child Kurds are as corrupt and tribal as the Sunnis and ****tes???? Who'da thunk!???

Quite a mess we thoughtlessly created when we decided democracy could be planted in Iraq.... :peace
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His family is in the corruption business. They have a safe country to escape to.
Yes we have given them far to much credit, excepting a press where they can make these allegations and other, excepting the divisions within are set aside to combat ISIL. So yes that is a fair start.
 
JANFU said:
Iraqi politicians, militias warn Abadi against U.S. force deployment | Reuters



Iraq Only Accepts Fraction of U.S. Equipment to Fight ISIS - US News



You can see Iran with the Shia Militias are not willing to work together with allies against ISIL.
So thoughts are?
I see Iraq moves closer to a split along sectarian lines

Support the Kurd's as they are the only allies the West will have at the end.
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What consequences for failed policy. No, Iran's got the big influence in Iraq now. Which doesn't necessarily bother me. But oh boy, the supporters of the Bush policy are fit to be tied. They're never going to acknowledge the gift that Bush gave to Iran by dumping Hussein, somehow this too is Obama's fault.
 
Montecresto said:
What consequences for failed policy. No, Iran's got the big influence in Iraq now. Which doesn't necessarily bother me. But oh boy, the supporters of the Bush policy are fit to be tied. They're never going to acknowledge the gift that Bush gave to Iran by dumping Hussein, somehow this too is Obama's fault.
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Yeah, handed to Iran on a silver platter. But there are those that state, oh the US should have stayed.
The US could have stayed till the 2nd coming of Jesus, and made no difference at all.
 
JANFU said:
Yeah, handed to Iran on a silver platter. But there are those that state, oh the US should have stayed.
The US could have stayed till the 2nd coming of Jesus, and made no difference at all.
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That's true, but the damage had already been done, Bush dumped the secularist Hussein, who didn't let the two groups fight each other in favor of the Shia government which immediately went to work undermining Sunni interests. It still goes back to Bush. Now Obama's got plenty of blame all over the rest of the ME.
 
Montecresto said:
That's true, but the damage had already been done, Bush dumped the secularist Hussein, who didn't let the two groups fight each other in favor of the Shia government which immediately went to work undermining Sunni interests. It still goes back to Bush. Now Obama's got plenty of blame all over the rest of the ME.
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Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the border divisions have caused so much strife?
Hats off to the Brits and the French.
 
JANFU said:
Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the border divisions have caused so much strife?
Hats off to the Brits and the French.
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Not sure of your point there.
 
JANFU said:
States that were artificially constructed to ensure Brit-French rule.
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That was clear, it was your congratulations of it that perplexed me.
 
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