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Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship

Fletch said:
Perhaps He did. Carson is an immensely talented surgeon and the people mocking him now couldn't hold his jock strap. Which is why him making up stories about his life is so bizarre.
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:lol:
 
shrubnose said:
Obama got himself elected president of the USA twice, let see if Carson can do that.

I predict that he won't be able to do it once.
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And I predict you are right about that. The truth is, Carson is a better human being than most politicians--his untruthfulness about his past not withstanding.
 
I'm pretty sure god doesn't like people who lie so much.
 
beefheart said:
I'm pretty sure god doesn't like people who lie so much.
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God doesn't like such people, He loves them. Which is why He offers them a path to salvation.
 
Fletch said:
God doesn't like such people, He loves them. Which is why He offers them a path to salvation.
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Talibornagain hypocrisy from Ben Carson, imagine that.
 
beefheart said:
Talibornagain hypocrisy from Ben Carson, imagine that.
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Please explain the link you are drawing between the Taliban and born again Christians. I suspect you know nothing about either one but just like to link them because you think its cute.
 
Fletch said:
Please explain the link you are drawing between the Taliban and born again Christians. I suspect you know nothing about either one but just like to link them because you think its cute.
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Just holding him up to the faith he wears on his sleeve.
 
shrubnose said:
Obama got himself elected president of the USA twice, let see if Carson can do that.

I predict that he won't be able to do it once.
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Obama had lotsa help.
 
beefheart said:
Just holding him up to the faith he wears on his sleeve.
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No you aren't. You know nothing about his faith. You are just engaged in ignorant, childish smears
 
Fletch said:
No you aren't. You know nothing about his faith. You are just engaged in ignorant, childish smears
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I know all about his 7th day adventist nonsense. He is a zealot and a talibornagain nutsack
 
beefheart said:
I know all about his 7th day adventist nonsense. He is a zealot and a talibornagain nutsack
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I see. So please explain the link between 7th Day Adventists and the Taliban. Name calling is easy. That's why children do it.
 
Fletch said:
Please explain the link you are drawing between the Taliban and born again Christians. I suspect you know nothing about either one but just like to link them because you think its cute.
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The connection is that fundamentalist Muslims and fundamentalist Christians have broken from reality and want to impose religious-based laws on the rest of society. While I think we can all agree that fundamentalist Christianity is certainly less extreme, that in itself does not excuse the goals of those who belong to that camp.
 
Cardinal said:
The connection is that fundamentalist Muslims and fundamentalist Christians have broken from reality and want to impose religious-based laws on the rest of society. While I think we can all agree that fundamentalist Christianity is certainly less extreme, that in itself does not excuse the goals of those who belong to that camp.
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There are no Christians I am aware of who want a theocracy here in America, nor are there any who even remotely treat people the way the Taliban does. So it is a stupid comparison used by people who wish to smear their opponents rather than debate them.
 
Fletch said:
There are no Christians I am aware of who want a theocracy here in America, nor are there any who even remotely treat people the way the Taliban does. So it is a stupid comparison used by people who wish to smear their opponents rather than debate them.
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But fundamentalist Christians and Muslims do want to impose laws based on their interpretation of their respective holy books. Whether or not you wrap it in the label of theocracy is just playing semantics.
 
Cardinal said:
But fundamentalist Christians and Muslims do want to impose laws based on their interpretation of their respective holy books. Whether or not you wrap it in the label of theocracy is just playing semantics.
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Even if true, there is no comparison between Christians and the Taliban. And no Christian is calling for rule by Christian law.
 
Fletch said:
Even if true, there is no comparison between Christians and the Taliban. And no Christian is calling for rule by Christian law.
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Whether or not you wrap it in the label of "rule by Christian law" is, again, playing semantics. When fundamentalist Christians want to ban abortion and gay marriage, that is imposing law based on their interpretation of the bible.
 
Fletch said:
There are no Christians I am aware of who want a theocracy here in America, nor are there any who even remotely treat people the way the Taliban does. So it is a stupid comparison used by people who wish to smear their opponents rather than debate them.
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You haven't watched the 700 club, or listened to Tony Perkins, have you?

Additionally, in many counties across the US, alcohol cannot be served until noon, due to blue laws. Eisenhower campaigned to place "In God We Trust" on our currency and Pledge of Allegiance in 1956, despite centuries of having no God mentioned anywhere on our currency, pledge, government buildings, etc, to respect the non-establishment clause. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists, regardless of religion. Whilst the Christian fundamentalists don't practice the same brutality as many fundamentalists in the Middle East act upon, the inclination towards a theocracy is maintained by both parties.
 
Why is Carson still newsworthy? It didn't take Carson long to see Russia from his house. Like Scott Walker, Christie, Graham, Firioni, Jindal, Huckabee, Rand, Jeb Bush and a couple more his campaign is toast, caput, gone.

There's no doubt that Carson's heart is in the right place, but his head clearly isn't.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Why is Carson still newsworthy? It didn't take Carson long to see Russia from his house. Like Scott Walker, Christie, Graham, Firioni, Jindal, Huckabee, Rand, Jeb Bush and a couple more his campaign is toast, caput, gone.

There's no doubt that Carson's heart is in the right place, but his head clearly isn't.
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He's still good for a couple weeks of giggles. Once he and Trump are out you can expect the race to get a lot less funny.
 
Fletch said:
There are no Christians I am aware of who want a theocracy here in America, nor are there any who even remotely treat people the way the Taliban does. So it is a stupid comparison used by people who wish to smear their opponents rather than debate them.
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There are Christian religionists who most certainly want Christianity to be a national religion, who want Christianity to be the center of government, education, the legal system and the like. You may conveniently ignore that fact but it does not make it any less true.

Regarding the Taliban, religionists of every stripe have more in common with each other than they do with their chosen "religions". Where it exists in force Taliban has more power and authority than a religionist counterpart in America. Given equal power and authority in the US would Christian (or any faith) religionists parallel the actions of the Taliban? We may rightfully assume they would. Secondly, I do not want to find out.
 
le bouffon said:
You haven't watched the 700 club, or listened to Tony Perkins, have you?

Additionally, in many counties across the US, alcohol cannot be served until noon, due to blue laws. Eisenhower campaigned to place "In God We Trust" on our currency and Pledge of Allegiance in 1956, despite centuries of having no God mentioned anywhere on our currency, pledge, government buildings, etc, to respect the non-establishment clause. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists, regardless of religion. Whilst the Christian fundamentalists don't practice the same brutality as many fundamentalists in the Middle East act upon, the inclination towards a theocracy is maintained by both parties.
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Here's one called "The Baptist Twist." In the south under strict Baptist law you're not allowed to drink, but you could legally drink booze outside so long as it was in a bag. So what clerks would do to make sure the customers couldn't drink in secret is they would twist the bag at the neck, thereby announcing to all that the drinker wasn't drinking lemonade. It's such an established practice in the United States you'll see clerks doing it for absolutely no reason as far West as Los Angeles.
 
Cardinal said:
Here's one called "The Baptist Twist." In the south under strict Baptist law you're not allowed to drink, but you could legally drink booze outside so long as it was in a bag. So what clerks would do to make sure the customers couldn't drink in secret is they would twist the bag at the neck, thereby announcing to all that the drinker wasn't drinking lemonade. It's such an established practice in the United States you'll see clerks doing it for absolutely no reason as far West as Los Angeles.
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That's the first I have heard of that. However, being Southern born and raised I remember the twist well. Interesting.
 
Cardinal said:
Here's one called "The Baptist Twist." In the south under strict Baptist law you're not allowed to drink, but you could legally drink booze outside so long as it was in a bag. So what clerks would do to make sure the customers couldn't drink in secret is they would twist the bag at the neck, thereby announcing to all that the drinker wasn't drinking lemonade. It's such an established practice in the United States you'll see clerks doing it for absolutely no reason as far West as Los Angeles.
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Were you wasted when you made up that story. There is an open container law in most places, New Orleans and Las Vegas being the only really major exceptions.

As to why the paper bag, the wire explains it a lot more eloquently than I could.

 
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