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Anonymous Vows To Unhood 1,000 Ku Klux Klan Members

Ikari said:
And that's how we end up at lowest common denominator nonsense. People are willing to overlook improper actions if it brings about something they want or if it punishes people the feel deserve it. Doesn't matter if it's actually wrong, if the actions are dangerous, if the repercussions are extreme, if it causes pain and suffering of others whom were otherwise engaged in legal activity, etc.

This social crusading will get us all in the end. Less we stop reacting emotionally and start using our brains, this will not end in a good place.
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I understand your argument and you are mostly correct. Regardless, I am suspending my outrage. I never claimed to be perfect.
 
Ikari said:
Names would also be "personal information".

These sorts of vigilante movements sometimes have popular components, but in the end it is unregulated vigilantism and we all know that's not a good thing. The KKK is not illegal, what's the point of "exposing" them? It's just to create opportunities for harassment, nothing more.

We should have some sense of privacy and the desire to protect it.
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All I see is they are exposing their names...big deal.

If they do not want their names exposed, then do not belong to the KKK. This is a club, not a food bank. These morons/scumbags do not need to belong to the KKK, they just want to be.

And if the KKK is SO big on security, then they will have to do a whole lot better job of protecting the names of their members.

If I found out that someone I knew was FOR CERTAIN a member of the KKK - I would not hesitate to expose them myself, to as many people/organizations as I could.

I have zero empathy for these sick/moronic cowards.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
The idea of KKK on twitter is funny as ****.

It's so happy with its little blue tweet bird - how can they manage to hate effectively amid so many lulz cats and pro-weed sentiments? I can't even focus on hot kinky sex advertising while there it's s damned perky.

And the idea of them editing their hate messages and clan-meet get together times down to 140 characters, resorting to the irritating 2 and 4 instead of to and for (causing issues with the abandoned too that has no home) is just gut wrenchingly funny. . . . or are they compulsive? a 500 word hate essay broken down into 100 unequal parts. . . . and don't they run out of things to say? So maybe they just aren't very active and their twitter feeds aren't blowing up their white iphones.

:lamo
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White iPhones are racist??? :shock:
 
radcen said:
The person who feels that way is no better the the person they hate.
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In the end, the real problem is that this is just another form of anti-intellectualism. It's this emotional outlashing that ultimately drives dangerous and unsavory action but people feel justified because of whom the victims are. There are many faces to anti-intellectualism. On some front, it's easy to see the religious anti-intellectual crusading against science. But some forms are not quite so obvious or in your face.

The attitude expressed in this thread is another side of anti-intellectualism. It is the willful disregard of ration, logic, and reason for the purpose of emotional response such that dangerous and possibly even illegal activity is exalted because one feels that their soap box is the best soap box and all the other folk deserve it. It's very short sighted because there is nothing that restricts this form of vigilantism only to things we feel are socially justified. Those giving huzzahs for this could just as easily be crying foul if the same action was taken against another group.

And it's this lack of consistency, this deliberate push to abandon reason and logic, that leads us down this slippery slope. Anti-intellectualism needs to be stopped.
 
DA60 said:
All I see is they are exposing their names...big deal.
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Cool, cool.

And if next they hack planned parenthood and publish the names of everyone who had an abortion? Cool beans? I mean, if they didn't want their names exposed, they shouldn't have gotten them.

And BTW, need I really point out the irony of saying that if a group of people who wear masks to hide their identity didn't want their identity exposed, they wouldn't belong to a group that hides their identities? Because it seems pretty obvious that they didn't want their identity exposed, else they wouldn't....you know....hide their identity.
 
Ikari said:
Cool, cool.

And if next they hack planned parenthood and publish the names of everyone who had an abortion? Cool beans?
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That would be a terrible invasion of privacy. And I guess I would be a hypocrite for condemning it.
 
Ikari said:
Names would also be "personal information".

These sorts of vigilante movements sometimes have popular components, but in the end it is unregulated vigilantism and we all know that's not a good thing. The KKK is not illegal, what's the point of "exposing" them? It's just to create opportunities for harassment, nothing more.

We should have some sense of privacy and the desire to protect it.
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If someone got attacked because they were on the list that anonymous published, should we be trying to find way to hold them accountable for the attack???
 
Amadeus said:
That would be a terrible invasion of privacy. And I guess I would be a hypocrite for condemning it.
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Oh what!!!! That's a terrible invasion of privacy? But exposing people who aren't doing anything illegal and clearly don't want their identities exposed...that's all sorts of proper, yeah?

And what will you do should Anonymous do such an act? You've already patted them on their back for their vigilantism in this case. This is the problem with endorsing vigilantism.
 
Ikari said:
Cool, cool.

And if next they hack planned parenthood and publish the names of everyone who had an abortion? Cool beans? I mean, if they didn't want their names exposed, they shouldn't have gotten them.

And BTW, need I really point out the irony of saying that if a group of people who wear masks to hide their identity didn't want their identity exposed, they wouldn't belong to a group that hides their identities? Because it seems pretty obvious that they didn't want their identity exposed, else they wouldn't....you know....hide their identity.
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You are missing the point.

If you do not want your identity exposed and you belong to a controversial organization, then you have no one to blame but yourselves if your security sucks. But since the KKK is no doubt filled with inbred idiots and lowlifes...I am not surprised. They probably have trouble tying their shoes properly or putting the condoms on properly before they have sex with their sisters let alone work a computer security system.

That is my point.

The fact that it happened to an organization full of morons and/or scumbags is a huge bonus.
 
DA60 said:
All I see is they are exposing their names...big deal.

If they do not want their names exposed, then do not belong to the KKK. This is a club, not a food bank. These morons/scumbags do not need to belong to the KKK, they just want to be.

And if the KKK is SO big on security, then they will have to do a whole lot better job of protecting the names of their members.

If I found out that someone I knew was FOR CERTAIN a member of the KKK - I would not hesitate to expose them myself, to as many people/organizations as I could.

I have zero empathy for these sick/moronic cowards.
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So what happens if a Klan member gets beaten to death because of this?? Is it OK to respond to hate with more hate or should we as a society be striving for finding ways eliminate this kind of crap (both the Klan's and anonymous')??
 
Ikari said:
Oh what!!!! That's a terrible invasion of privacy? But exposing people who aren't doing anything illegal and clearly don't want their identities exposed...that's all sorts of proper, yeah?

And what will you do should Anonymous do such an act? You've already patted them on their back for their vigilantism in this case. This is the problem with endorsing vigilantism.
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What part of me being a hypocrite in this instance did you not understand? I don't agree with vigilantism, and if Anonymous can be prosecuted I'd be okay with it. Doesn't mean I'd shed a tear if KKK members were exposed.
 
PeteEU said:
Police officers, city officials, elected officials.. and that was only in Ferguson.... and god only knows how far and deep the racial issues among people like this go across the US, especially in the South.

So lets expose all these racist pigs.. and lets see who they are.
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1) "especially in the south." I love it. The south isn't really anymore racist than anywhere else in this country. The north is pretty bad too...in fact...they had large KKK followings too.

2) Id rather them be un hooded by a reputable source. Not these terrorists.
 
tres borrachos said:
That's what the Ashley Madison thing was all about. This country is filled with voyeurs apparently.
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Yes because being part of a long-standing racist terrorist organization is the same as cheating on your spouse.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
The idea of KKK on twitter is funny as ****.

It's so happy with its little blue tweet bird - how can they manage to hate effectively amid so many lulz cats and pro-weed sentiments? I can't even focus on hot kinky sex advertising while there it's s damned perky.
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god dammit you just made me spit my food everywhere

hahahahahaha
 
faithful_servant said:
So what happens if a Klan member gets beaten to death because of this?? Is it OK to respond to hate with more hate or should we as a society be striving for finding ways eliminate this kind of crap (both the Klan's and anonymous')??
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Then that is too bad for the KKK lowlife (good for the rest of the world though, probably) and I hope the murderer is brought to justice.

If I belong to a very controversial organization, then I expect my life to be less secure.

No one is putting a gun to the heads of these KKK lowlifes to be members.
 
I'd be willing to bet that many of the same people who are ok with this would somehow be offended if the same were to happen to those who hid their faces during the "Occupy" protests.
 
DA60 said:
You are missing the point.

If you do not want your identity exposed and you belong to a controversial organization, then you have no one to blame but yourselves if your security sucks. But since the KKK is no doubt filled with inbred idiots and lowlifes...I am not surprised. They probably have trouble tying their shoes properly or putting the condoms on properly before they have sex with their sisters let alone work a computer security system.

That is my point.

The fact that it happened to an organization full of morons and/or scumbags is a huge bonus.
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"If you want to keep loose cash lying around your house, but aren't willing to invest in a security system, then when you get robbed, you have no one to blame but yourself." Yeah, that kind logic makes PERFECT sense......:roll:
 
DA60 said:
Then that is too bad for the KKK lowlife (good for the rest of the world though, probably) and I hope the murderer is brought to justice.

If I belong to a very controversial organization, then I expect my life to be less secure.

No one is putting a gun to the heads of these KKK lowlifes to be members.
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So we shouldn't worry about protecting everyone, just those we like (even if we want justice for everyone)??? If it's socially acceptable to kill Klan members (but still illegal), how far are we from picking another group of people we don't like and turning a blind eye to their deaths??
 
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