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Feds Arrest Fox News Commentator

ludin said:
thank you for your dishonesty.

yep fox news did check his background with the government and the government cleared him so that is ok in their book.
yep it is Obama's fault. he cleared the guy or someone in his administration did.
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Thank you for showing you rabid hatred. The Obama Admin cleared this guy? LOL

I'm sure the people who cleared this guy called Obama and asked him 1st? Right?

BTW how do we know Fox called the government? The article says no such thing. It just says he's been a Fox analyst since 2002.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Maybe you can tell us why Fox hired a commentator with as the OP said: ' that Simmons had a "significant criminal history,'...

No 'ifs' allowed.
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Do you know the "criminal" history? Trust me I know why you're here. It's not about the guy lying to the Pentagon. You think you can bust a hole in Fox's credibility, and that's your only reason for being here. You're going to lose that debate, but carry on.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Thank you for showing you rabid hatred. The Obama Admin cleared this guy? LOL

I'm sure the people who cleared this guy called Obama and asked him 1st? Right?

BTW how do we know Fox called the government? The article says no such thing. It just says he's been a Fox analyst since 2002.
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Its pretty clear from the article that he was granted security clearance and was hired by a government contractor for government work. He was arrested for falsifying information that got him that security clearance.
 
American said:
Do you know the "criminal" history? Trust me I know why you're here. It's not about the guy lying to the Pentagon. You think you can bust a hole in Fox's credibility, and that's your only reason for being here. You're going to lose that debate, but carry on.
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Do I know it? Yeah, the the OP. It's right there.

BTW I don't have to punch a hole in Fox's credibility, they, along with every other TV news source lost that a long time ago. I just find it fascinating how all you Cons piss and moan about the mass media, but when Fox screws up you all rush to their defense. It's like you believe Fox is 'above it all' That they would never lie or do something to increase their ratings.

Hypocrisy to the nth degree.
 
I really gotta give it to Huffpo. If their intent was to be somewhat dishonest in their reporting, they succeeded admirably.

A regular guest commentator on Fox News

"regular" guess commentator? I never heard of the guy.

Simmons has been interviewed by Sean Hannity, Neil Cavuto and has appeared on "Fox & Friends."

3 shows out of how many? I watch Cavuto regularly and never saw the guy. How "regular" could he have been?

This story has been updated to note that Fox News said Simmons was not a paid commentator.

So this guy appeared at random as an unpaid guest being interviewed, and it was Fox's responsibility to "vet" him?

The usual idiots are acting like this is Shep Smith or Bill O'Reilly or even one of the paid regular commentators who actually appears on Fox News.

Failure. Abysmal failure for the Fox News haters.
 
Samhain said:
Its pretty clear from the article that he was granted security clearance and was hired by a government contractor for government work. He was arrested for falsifying information that got him that security clearance.
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YES. I agree, I said that before. He was lying NOW to get clearance. My problem is with his PAST record. The government had to know about that, but they didn't care. Which is the way the government operates sometimes, we all know that. It may not be right but they hire criminals all the time.

But Fox should have known too, but, IMO, they should have cared.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Thank you for showing you rabid hatred. The Obama Admin cleared this guy? LOL

I'm sure the people who cleared this guy called Obama and asked him 1st? Right?

BTW how do we know Fox called the government? The article says no such thing. It just says he's been a Fox analyst since 2002.
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and the dishonesty continues. no rabid hatred anywhere.

Obama is in charge of it all. someone in his administration handles it
and that guy reports to Obama.

prove they didn't.

your making claims you can't back up. IE grasping for straws.
 
tres borrachos said:
I really gotta give it to Huffpo. If their intent was to be somewhat dishonest in their reporting, they succeeded admirably.

A regular guest commentator on Fox News

"regular" guess commentator? I never heard of the guy.

Simmons has been interviewed by Sean Hannity, Neil Cavuto and has appeared on "Fox & Friends."

3 shows out of how many? I watch Cavuto regularly and never saw the guy. How "regular" could he have been?

This story has been updated to note that Fox News said Simmons was not a paid commentator.

So this guy appeared at random as an unpaid guest being interviewed, and it was Fox's responsibility to "vet" him?

The usual idiots are acting like this is Shep Smith or Bill O'Reilly or even one of the paid regular commentators who actually appears on Fox News.

Failure. Abysmal failure for the Fox News haters.
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I'm an idiot now. I'll remember that next time YOU whine and cry that the liberals are calling one of your Republican politicians names. But that's right you're not a republican. :2razz:

Good Day
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
YES. I agree, I said that before. He was lying NOW to get clearance. My problem is with his PAST record. The government had to know about that, but they didn't care. Which is the way the government operates sometimes, we all know that. It may not be right but they hire criminals all the time.

But Fox should have known too, but, IMO, they should have cared.
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Not sure that the CIA provides employment verification services. Just don't know how one proves you are/were a spook.
 
ludin said:
and the dishonesty continues. no rabid hatred anywhere.

Obama is in charge of it all. someone in his administration handles it
and that guy reports to Obama.

prove they didn't.

your making claims you can't back up. IE grasping for straws.
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Obama is in charge of all. He is the great, all-seeing genius of a president. Or he's a complete moron who's so stupid he don't know what hand to use when he says the Pledge of Allegiance.

You people with ODS need to make up your minds.
 
tres borrachos said:
I really gotta give it to Huffpo. If their intent was to be somewhat dishonest in their reporting, they succeeded admirably.

A regular guest commentator on Fox News

"regular" guess commentator? I never heard of the guy.

Simmons has been interviewed by Sean Hannity, Neil Cavuto and has appeared on "Fox & Friends."

3 shows out of how many? I watch Cavuto regularly and never saw the guy. How "regular" could he have been?

This story has been updated to note that Fox News said Simmons was not a paid commentator.

So this guy appeared at random as an unpaid guest being interviewed, and it was Fox's responsibility to "vet" him?

The usual idiots are acting like this is Shep Smith or Bill O'Reilly or even one of the paid regular commentators who actually appears on Fox News.

Failure. Abysmal failure for the Fox News haters.
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If he was unpaid how much do you want to bet that Fox News contacted the Pentagon looking for an expert on a subject they were discussing and the Pentagon sent Williams?
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I'm an idiot now. I'll remember that next time YOU whine and cry that the liberals are calling one of your Republican politicians names. But that's right you're not a republican. :2razz:

Good Day
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If you wrote the article for Huffpo, yes, you're an idiot. If you didn't, you're putting words in my mouth that I never said, mostly because I didn't even read your posts or any post beyond the OP which is what I quoted and responded to. Your posts are of no interest to me.

And your idiotic insertion of "my Republican politicians" is so pathetic it's like reading words of a pouting little kid. Keep your paranoia and obnoxious posts in check.
 
tres borrachos said:
I really gotta give it to Huffpo. If their intent was to be somewhat dishonest in their reporting, they succeeded admirably.

A regular guest commentator on Fox News

"regular" guess commentator? I never heard of the guy.

Simmons has been interviewed by Sean Hannity, Neil Cavuto and has appeared on "Fox & Friends."

3 shows out of how many? I watch Cavuto regularly and never saw the guy. How "regular" could he have been?

This story has been updated to note that Fox News said Simmons was not a paid commentator.

So this guy appeared at random as an unpaid guest being interviewed, and it was Fox's responsibility to "vet" him?

The usual idiots are acting like this is Shep Smith or Bill O'Reilly or even one of the paid regular commentators who actually appears on Fox News.

Failure. Abysmal failure for the Fox News haters.
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And the lemmings are lapping it up without even questioning it. Pretty pathetic.
 
jmotivator said:
If he was unpaid how much do you want to bet that Fox News contacted the Pentagon looking for an expert on a subject they were discussing and the Pentagon sent Williams?
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Interesting, and quite possible. Given that our government is tied to this story, I suppose anything is possible.

My husband is a Cavuto junkie. I asked him if he knew who this guy was. He said he also never heard of him.
 
Samhain said:
Not sure that the CIA provides employment verification services. Just don't know how one proves you are/were a spook.
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I doubt the CIA provides that verification. I can't see calling them up and asking if so in so works for them. I'm just saying given this guy's past record, he shouldn't have been on the air. Past criminal records are fairly easy to find.
 
Moon said:
And the lemmings are lapping it up without even questioning it. Pretty pathetic.
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Yup, now that I've read the subsequent posts to the OP, that's evident. Any port in a storm will do when the subject is Fox News, even a port that is actually a mirage.
 
ludin said:
yea how did the Obama administration not vet this guy and give him Security clearances for so long.
if the federal government stuff can't find his ruse when vetted a normal company won't be able to either.
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Going hard at the Obama administration is about as transparent as going after Fox News. Supposedly this ruse had been going on since the mid 2000's, which would indicate it was even happening during the Bush Administration. And it's unlikely that either administration did not "vet" the guy (And really, tying it to either "administration" is a bit disingenuous as it implies some kind of more direct involvement) as much as the fact that his fraud was conducted at such a high level as to successfully thwart trained investigators. Sometimes its not incompetence or a lack of trying but simply a skilled individual on the other side.

Though yes, I would say if there's a side that bears more scorn in this, it'd be the government as opposed to fox, since a large part of any "vetting" process a news agency would do would be to check on things like if the person had a clean background check or clearance level they claim to have.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Because the Pentagon and the CIA hire murderers and criminals all the time. I'm sure they knew his criminal background. Did he fool them about what he's does now? Yes, but I can't believe the Feds didn't know his background. They knew, they just didn't care. Fox, or any news organization should have known about his background, and should have cared.
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This is just too much....

So now you're alleging that the government knew he was a criminal who was presenting a false history of himself and despite that decided to give him a SECRET clearance and let him advise military personnel....and yet that is less of a problem or issue that Fox News didn't know these things and let him get on a TV network and talk about things.
 
tres borrachos said:
If you wrote the article for Huffpo, yes, you're an idiot. If you didn't, you're putting words in my mouth that I never said, mostly because I didn't even read your posts or any post beyond the OP which is what I quoted and responded to. Your posts are of no interest to me.

And your idiotic insertion of "my Republican politicians" is so pathetic it's like reading words of a pouting little kid. Keep your paranoia and obnoxious posts in check.
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Yeah, the idiot remark was directed at me. You say didn't read my posts but but you mocked my point that Fox should have vetted him. There's nothing in the OP about that, I brought it up. Try being honest. You want to call me names, OK. I don't care, it's only a forum, and I never,ever report people here. It's no big deal, really. But next time someone calls a politician or another poster a name here, don't whine and cry about it. Because you do the same thing.
 
Zyphlin said:
This is just too much....

So now you're alleging that the government knew he was a criminal who was presenting a false history of himself and despite that decided to give him a SECRET clearance and let him advise military personnel....and yet that is less of a problem or issue that Fox News didn't know these things and let him get on a TV network and talk about things.
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I'm reading it as he presented false history about him being a spy, not that he lied about past criminal record. You finger print the guy, all his past criminal history has to come up. So I'm assuming the Feds KNEW he had a past record.

If they didn't know that? Then we're talking about a whole different level of incompetence.
 
ludin said:
yep fox news did check his background with the government and the government cleared him so that is ok in their book.
yep it is Obama's fault. he cleared the guy or someone in his administration did.
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You don't know how Faux Noise vetted this guy.

'The Government' didn't vet him either... a PRIVATE contractor did that, in fact his attempt to get a clearance AFTER the PRIVATE security firm hired him is how he got arrested. The Pentagon doesn't immediately vet every employee of a PRIVATE security firm hires. I've known a few security 'specialists' over the years- the government doesn't vet them, the security firm does- only if they require a CLEARANCE does the Government directly vet an employee.

So for this guy, the first time the government was called on to DIRECTLY vet this scumbag he was arrested for fraud.

I wasn't checked by the FBI until I was put in for a clearance.... :peace
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Lots of questions here:

Fox never vetted this guy? Well, maybe not, I'm guessing he was anti-Obama on everything so Fox put him on, no questions asked.



And LOL. He fooled the pentagon? That's great huh?

And got to wonder about this guy. He's on TV, lying like crazy and didn't think he'd be caught? Usually people like this lie low. But he goes on TV? Sounds a little delusional.

What a Joke.
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I don't think it's a matter of Fox's not vetting the individual. Even the more rigorous vetting of the U.S. government failed. The reality is that the vetting process isn't perfect. Also, one should keep in mind that if someone truly worked for one of the Intelligence agencies, his or her information may be out of reach of the vetting process due to its sensitivity.
 
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