Putin at UN

Crosscheck said:

He may not have been directly responsible for sinking it. But if Russia would have accepted the help offered by the navies of the USA, Britain, and Norway there may have been 23 sailors alive today.
Russia did not have some of the more modern submarine rescue equipment the three countries offered to help with. The ships were there to help but Russia held them back for 4 days while the remaining sailors died.
Putnin meanwhile went on a 5 days vacation along a coastal town.

It is one thing to kill your enemy but to not try and help your own dedicated men is despicable.

Yes you are right that the US has supported dictators in the past but I believe this thread was about Putin. My bad.

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Thanks for filling me with the details Re: the Kursk. I remember that the incident had an international following.

I suspect that the the reason for declining International help must have been for security reasons. They didn't want to take the risk of CIA agents posing as "Rescue workers"

I don't doubt that this former KGB head is hardly a Bleeding Heart & the thinking of those making the decision to accept help or not may have been that the value of security outweighed the value of those lives. After all "G.I." stands for "Government Issued" like a hammer. A soldier can rack up an "Article 15" for getting too sunburned, on leave, to do his duty because he damaged "Government property" i.e. himself.

I only brought up other heavily supported Regime heads as a comparative means to evaluate Putin. Your sticking to Putin hardly constitutes a "Bad"

Overall, I feel that Putin is less likely to severely damage the planet than many US supported despots & by aiding those fighting ISIS seems well intentioned, for now.


Thanks

Thoreau72 said:

Syria and Russia have had constructive and mutually beneficial dealings for more than 50 years. Why would Putin want to take over the country? Why would Assad fear Russia?

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Assad is valuable to Russia only so long as the get what they want. At the moment that appears to be a naval base on the shores of the Med and some runways.

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Assad is valuable to Russia only so long as the get what they want. At the moment that appears to be a naval base on the shores of the Med and some runways.

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Yes, they have a mutually beneficial relationship, a good thing.

Thoreau72 said:

Yes, they have a mutually beneficial relationship, a good thing.

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Good for some. Not so good for others.

I think Charles Manson had a mutually beneficial relationship with his kids too.