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Democrats block 20-week abortion ban[W:123***459]

Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

JayDubya said:
Those who support abortion don't really have much room to talk when it comes to humanity; if they have any, they already consider it cheap.
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Do you think women who choose to have an abortion do so lightly?
 
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Henrin said:
No, I'm not.
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And how do you propose that it be stopped? By a government that you believe a woman should be allowed to not be controlled by?
 
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JayDubya said:
Nope. You fail Bio 101.

Just laughably ignorant of fact.



Absolutely and utterly stupid statement completely at odds with reality. Forget Bio 101, you fail middle school science.
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And you failed Humanity 101. Do yuo know the traits that distinguish humans from other animals? I don't mean DNA.
Which of the following traits do early term fetuses possess?

1. Generative computation

Humans can generate a practically limitless variety of words and concepts. We do so through two modes of operation recursive and combinatorial. The recursive operation allows us to apply a learned rule to create new expressions. In combinatorial operations, we mix different learned elements to create a new concept.

2. Promiscuous combination of ideas

"Promiscuous combination of ideas," Hauser explained, "allows the mingling of different domains of knowledge such as art, sex, space, causality and friendship thereby generating new laws, social relationships and technologies."

3. Mental symbols

Mental symbols are our way of encoding sensory experiences. They form the basis of our complex systems of language and communication. We may choose to keep our mental symbols to ourselves, or represent them to others using words or pictures.

4. Abstract thought

Abstract thought is the contemplation of things beyond what we can sense.
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What Distinguishes Humans from Other Animals?
 
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iguanaman said:
You have a very low opinion of what constitutes humanity then. Why am I not surprised?
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Facts don't care about someones personal opinion.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Do you think women who choose to have an abortion do so lightly?
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I don't care if someone hires a contract killer frivolously or after much deliberation; it's still a premeditated homicide - it's coldblooded and aggressive.

I only care that the sort of scum who would hire a contract killer be caught and segregated behind bars, away from civilized folk.
 
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iguanaman said:
And you failed Humanity 101. Do yuo know the traits that distinguish humans from other animals?
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Being a living organism of the species Homo sapiens - a human being - distinguishes us.

A newborn cannot engage in higher order sapience either; would you want it to be legal to kill them, too?
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Do you think women who choose to have an abortion do so lightly?
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Lawyer: Judge, it took him five days to decide to kill his wife.
 
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This is a great victory for women's health. It's nobody's business but the woman's and her doctors. If you don't want to have an abortion, don't have one! ;)
 
Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

JayDubya said:
Those who support abortion don't really have much room to talk when it comes to humanity; if they have any, they already consider it cheap.
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Yet you claim a mindless clump of parasitic cells is a human being. At least a sea slug can live on its own.
 
Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

JayDubya said:
Projection; you don't even understand the words you're saying and you can't logically defend them, which is typical for pro-abort extremists. That is the problem.
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I understand the words...I am logically defending them.

YOU...and so many like you...are a huge part of the problem.

In any case, I am not pro-abortion. I am for a woman's right to choose to end a pregnancy occurring within her own body...without people like you are the government butting in.
 
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iguanaman said:
Yet you claim a mindless clump of parasitic cells is a human being.
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It's amazing how hard you fail at basic science.

a) We don't change species mid-lifespan.

b) An organism of the species Homo sapiens - aka "human being" - is not capable of being engaged in any kind of symbiosis with another human being... just like every other species. Symbiosis refers to some interactions - positive and negative - between members of different species.

Frank Apisa said:
I am for a woman's right to choose to end a pregnancy occurring within her own body...without people like you are the government butting in.
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So exactly as stated, you support the continued legality of the human rights abuse of abortion... you are pro-abortion.
 
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GunFora said:
Just to be clear...if a woman decides to kill her unborn baby 5 minutes before her scheduled C-section, that's acceptable...but if she decides to kill her 5 minute old newborn...that's not ok?
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If a woman decides to terminate a pregnancy occurring within her own body...she should be allowed to terminate that pregnancy.

I have been very clear.
 
Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

JayDubya said:
Being a living organism of the species Homo sapiens - a human being - distinguishes us.

A newborn cannot engage in higher order sapience either; would you want it to be legal to kill them, too?
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A newborn can live outside the womb at least. That at least should be the criteria for a human, otherwise it is only an embryo. Miiliions of fully formed humans starve to death every year. Why is there no outrage about that?
 
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iguanaman said:
A newborn can live outside the womb at least. That at least should be the criteria for a human, otherwise it is only an embryo.
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"Living outside a womb" is not a criteria for being a living member of our species.

Learn science before you mouth off next time.

iguanaman said:
Miiliions of fully formed humans starve to death every year. Why is there no outrage about that?
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Non-sequitur.
 
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iguanaman said:
A newborn can live outside the womb at least. That at least should be the criteria for a human, otherwise it is only an embryo.
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The embryonic period is a stage of human development. Fail.
 
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iguanaman said:
Miiliions of fully formed humans starve to death every year. Why is there no outrage about that?
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There is **** tons of outrage about that.
 
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JayDubya said:
"Living outside a womb" is not a criteria for being a living member of our species.

Learn science before you mouth off next time.
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Of course it is a criteria. A parasitic clump of cells does not equal humanity. Potential is not reality.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
If a woman decides to terminate a pregnancy occurring within her own body...she should be allowed to terminate that pregnancy.

I have been very clear.
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Yes you have and it's very disturbing to think there are probably a lot of people who think like you. May God have mercy on your soul.
 
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Henrin said:
There is **** tons of outrage about that.
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Really? I don't see it here. In fact many here want women to be forced to gestate a fetus even if they will starve to death after birth.
 
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iguanaman said:
Of course it is a criteria. A parasitic clump of cells does not equal humanity. Potential is not reality.
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Potential would be something like a human egg.
 
Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

iguanaman said:
Really? I don't see it here. In fact many here want women to be forced to gestate a fetus even if they will starve to death after birth.
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You're outraged, aren't you? Well, there you go.
 
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GunFora said:
Yes you have and it's very disturbing to think there are probably a lot of people who think like you. May God have mercy on your soul.
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Glad you mentioned that god of yours.

I suspect that is why you want to intrude into a decision of the kind that goes on for most women when contemplating an abortion.

May your god have mercy on your soul. If your god exists...I suspect your soul is in more danger than mine.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
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I am pro choice. That being said, it seems appropriate that democrats keep up with science. Do to advances in medicine, when an embryo becomes viable has changed. Why should that not be reflected in law.

If you agree that we should follow science regarding climate change, why do here?
 
Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

GunFora said:
Yes you have and it's very disturbing to think there are probably a lot of people who think like you. May God have mercy on your soul.
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Funny but GOD is the number one abortion provider by far.

Between 50 and 80 percent of fertilized eggs never successfully impant and end in spontaneous miscarriage (and before a woman even knows she is pregnant) because of insufficient hormone levels or an non-viable egg or for some other reason.
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Life Begins At Conception. That's Not the Point
 
Re: Democrats block 20-week abortion ban

Frank Apisa said:
Glad you mentioned that god of yours.

I suspect that is why you want to intrude into a decision of the kind that goes on for most women when contemplating an abortion.

May your god have mercy on your soul. If your god exists...I suspect your soul is in more danger than mine.
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Yeah...just the same as murder...why would we want govt. to intrude? :roll:
 
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