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Edward Snowden Slams Hillary Clinton For Private Email Server......

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Oh, and now Snowden will chime in on Hillary. Huff-Po says Snowden is Uniquely qualified to comment on this matter. What say ye?





Edward Snowden argues in an interview scheduled to air Friday that Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state jeopardized national security secrets, and calls Clinton’s claims to the contrary “completely ridiculous.” “When the unclassified systems of the United States government, which has a full-time information security staff, regularly gets hacked, the idea that someone keeping a private server in the renovated bathroom of a server farm in Colorado is more secure is completely ridiculous,” the National Security Agency whistleblower told Mehdi Hasan in an interview that will air Friday on the debut episode of UpFront, Hasan’s new weekly talk show on Al Jazeera English.

“It is a problem because anyone who has the clearances that the secretary of state has, or the director of any top-level agency has, knows how classified information should be handled,” Snowden said. If lower-level employees had done what Clinton allegedly did, Snowden argued, “they would not only lose their jobs and lose their clearance, they would very likely face prosecution for it.”

Snowden is uniquely qualified to comment on the cybersecurity implications of Clinton’s email server: As an NSA contractor, he leaked millions of classified documents to journalists in June 2013, exposing the agency's mass surveillance programs. While his revelations sparked a debate about the impact of U.S. surveillance policies, they also demonstrated the relative ease with which the U.S. government’s classified information can be infiltrated....snip~

Edward Snowden Slams Hillary Clinton For Private Email Server
 
MMC said:
Oh, and now Snowden will chime in on Hillary. Huff-Po says Snowden is Uniquely qualified to comment on this matter. What say ye?





Edward Snowden argues in an interview scheduled to air Friday that Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state jeopardized national security secrets, and calls Clinton’s claims to the contrary “completely ridiculous.” “When the unclassified systems of the United States government, which has a full-time information security staff, regularly gets hacked, the idea that someone keeping a private server in the renovated bathroom of a server farm in Colorado is more secure is completely ridiculous,” the National Security Agency whistleblower told Mehdi Hasan in an interview that will air Friday on the debut episode of UpFront, Hasan’s new weekly talk show on Al Jazeera English.

“It is a problem because anyone who has the clearances that the secretary of state has, or the director of any top-level agency has, knows how classified information should be handled,” Snowden said. If lower-level employees had done what Clinton allegedly did, Snowden argued, “they would not only lose their jobs and lose their clearance, they would very likely face prosecution for it.”

Snowden is uniquely qualified to comment on the cybersecurity implications of Clinton’s email server: As an NSA contractor, he leaked millions of classified documents to journalists in June 2013, exposing the agency's mass surveillance programs. While his revelations sparked a debate about the impact of U.S. surveillance policies, they also demonstrated the relative ease with which the U.S. government’s classified information can be infiltrated....snip~

Edward Snowden Slams Hillary Clinton For Private Email Server
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As I've said so often before, Snowden is a traitor and belongs in jail for the rest of his life. That doesn't mean that he's automatically wrong 100% of the time...but I take almost everything he says with a very dim view indeed.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
As I've said so often before, Snowden is a traitor and belongs in jail for the rest of his life. That doesn't mean that he's automatically wrong 100% of the time...but I take almost everything he says with a very dim view indeed.
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And if he released the same documents under Bush..... I am sympathetic to your political views, but please, have some consistency.

Snowden is a hero to anyone who is sick and tired of the Government treating its citizens in a very "1984" kind of way. It was absolutely stupid of Clinton to set up a secret server in her own home. That's not how government officials should behave.
 
MMC said:
Oh, and now Snowden will chime in on Hillary. Huff-Po says Snowden is Uniquely qualified to comment on this matter. What say ye?





Edward Snowden argues in an interview scheduled to air Friday that Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state jeopardized national security secrets, and calls Clinton’s claims to the contrary “completely ridiculous.” “When the unclassified systems of the United States government, which has a full-time information security staff, regularly gets hacked, the idea that someone keeping a private server in the renovated bathroom of a server farm in Colorado is more secure is completely ridiculous,” the National Security Agency whistleblower told Mehdi Hasan in an interview that will air Friday on the debut episode of UpFront, Hasan’s new weekly talk show on Al Jazeera English.

“It is a problem because anyone who has the clearances that the secretary of state has, or the director of any top-level agency has, knows how classified information should be handled,” Snowden said. If lower-level employees had done what Clinton allegedly did, Snowden argued, “they would not only lose their jobs and lose their clearance, they would very likely face prosecution for it.”

Snowden is uniquely qualified to comment on the cybersecurity implications of Clinton’s email server: As an NSA contractor, he leaked millions of classified documents to journalists in June 2013, exposing the agency's mass surveillance programs. While his revelations sparked a debate about the impact of U.S. surveillance policies, they also demonstrated the relative ease with which the U.S. government’s classified information can be infiltrated....snip~

Edward Snowden Slams Hillary Clinton For Private Email Server
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I respect his view and he is probably correct.
 
Shadowless said:
And if he released the same documents under Bush..... I am sympathetic to your political views, but please, have some consistency.

Snowden is a hero to anyone who is sick and tired of the Government treating its citizens in a very "1984" kind of way. It was absolutely stupid of Clinton to set up a secret server in her own home. That's not how government officials should behave.
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I would have said the SAME thing if he'd released the same thing under Bush 43. Or under Nixon. Or under the president that I despise the most, Woodrow Wilson. Why? Because I am retired Navy and know enough of military history to know how intelligence leaks have won or lost entire wars.

Compare that to Bradley (or Chelsea) Manning. He/she belongs in jail for many years, though IMO not necessarily for life. If Manning had ONLY released the video of the chopper killing the reporters, then Manning would have been a sorta-kinda hero...but Manning ALSO released a freaking quarter-million diplomatic cables, and it is almost certain that the release of the information therein hurt our diplomatic efforts and resulted in the deaths of overseas contacts who would have been named in those cables. The difference between Snowden and Manning is that I strongly doubt that Manning really knew the full extent of what he/she was doing...but Snowden DID.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
I would have said the SAME thing if he'd released the same thing under Bush 43. Or under Nixon. Or under the president that I despise the most, Woodrow Wilson. Why? Because I am retired Navy and know enough of military history to know how intelligence leaks have won or lost entire wars.

Compare that to Bradley (or Chelsea) Manning. He/she belongs in jail for many years, though IMO not necessarily for life. If Manning had ONLY released the video of the chopper killing the reporters, then Manning would have been a sorta-kinda hero...but Manning ALSO released a freaking quarter-million diplomatic cables, and it is almost certain that the release of the information therein hurt our diplomatic efforts and resulted in the deaths of overseas contacts who would have been named in those cables. The difference between Snowden and Manning is that I strongly doubt that Manning really knew the full extent of what he/she was doing...but Snowden DID.
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I am for all leaks of illegal/immoral behavior. The notion that it will jeopardize our national security is absurd. We should not be fighting these wars in the first place. We as citizens have a right to know this information, especially in the Snowden case. Our rights were violated, and a federal court has upheld that. There is zero evidence that what Snowden leaked has harmed a single person, or we would never hear the end of it from the establishment media.

Wikileaks and groups like that are our friends. They are looking out for our country and citizens more than our military industrial complex is, that's for sure.
 
Shadowless said:
I am for all leaks of illegal/immoral behavior. The notion that it will jeopardize our national security is absurd. We should not be fighting these wars in the first place. We as citizens have a right to know this information, especially in the Snowden case. Our rights were violated, and a federal court has upheld that. There is zero evidence that what Snowden leaked has harmed a single person, or we would never hear the end of it from the establishment media.

Wikileaks and groups like that are our friends. They are looking out for our country and citizens more than our military industrial complex is, that's for sure.
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That is absolutely absurd. Snowden and the people at WikiLeaks should be executed. Snowden for sure is a traitor and we still aren't sure what information he STOLE from the US and if he has sold/given any to the Russians or Chinese. If he ever comes back to the States I would proudly put a bullet in his head at close range. He is a coward.

The idea that Snowden and WikiLeaks are looking out for us more than the military is so off the chart ignorant. There are bad people, VERY bad people out there who want to do harm to you and everyone you hold dear simply because you are free and because you have the freedom and the right to say those simply ridiculous things you said. The fortunate thing for you is that there are people who put on a uniform every day and put themselves at risk to protect your freedoms to think and say ignorant things.
 
Rentoc said:
That is absolutely absurd. Snowden and the people at WikiLeaks should be executed. Snowden for sure is a traitor and we still aren't sure what information he STOLE from the US and if he has sold/given any to the Russians or Chinese. If he ever comes back to the States I would proudly put a bullet in his head at close range. He is a coward.

The idea that Snowden and WikiLeaks are looking out for us more than the military is so off the chart ignorant. There are bad people, VERY bad people out there who want to do harm to you and everyone you hold dear simply because you are free and because you have the freedom and the right to say those simply ridiculous things you said. The fortunate thing for you is that there are people who put on a uniform every day and put themselves at risk to protect your freedoms to think and say ignorant things.
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But this is Huff Po and the Hill.....showing Hillary and her Team they have no out. :mrgreen:
 
Yep Assange/ WikiLeaks and Kim Dotcom are saying they have some dirt on Hillary too. Now this is getting real interesting on which hacker has what email of hers.
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The Megaupload founder, who faces charges of copyright infringement, said the Wikileaks founder will take aim at Clinton.

Kim Dotcom, the founder of the defunct file sharing site Megaupload who wants to bring his Internet Party to the United States in 2016, said Wikileaks founder Julian Assange will be Hillary Clinton’s “worst nightmare.”....snip~

Kim Dotcom: Julian Assange Will Be Hillary Clinton’s Worst Nightmare in 2016 - Bloomberg Politics
 
Rentoc said:
That is absolutely absurd. Snowden and the people at WikiLeaks should be executed. Snowden for sure is a traitor and we still aren't sure what information he STOLE from the US and if he has sold/given any to the Russians or Chinese. If he ever comes back to the States I would proudly put a bullet in his head at close range. He is a coward.

The idea that Snowden and WikiLeaks are looking out for us more than the military is so off the chart ignorant. There are bad people, VERY bad people out there who want to do harm to you and everyone you hold dear simply because you are free and because you have the freedom and the right to say those simply ridiculous things you said. The fortunate thing for you is that there are people who put on a uniform every day and put themselves at risk to protect your freedoms to think and say ignorant things.
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I guess you might have misunderstood me. I am not saying the members of the military are not looking out for us and protecting us from very bad people. I am saying that the military industrial complex itself, is not looking out for us. It wants to grow itself and be in a state of perpetual war. How do you think the NSA got so big and out of control? Wikileaks is our friend because it gives us information that is kept from us. Maybe if we dismantled the complex, we could go back to being able to trust our leaders, but until then, I trust leakers far more. So do a lot of people.
 
Rentoc said:
That is absolutely absurd. Snowden and the people at WikiLeaks should be executed. Snowden for sure is a traitor and we still aren't sure what information he STOLE from the US and if he has sold/given any to the Russians or Chinese. If he ever comes back to the States I would proudly put a bullet in his head at close range. He is a coward.

The idea that Snowden and WikiLeaks are looking out for us more than the military is so off the chart ignorant. There are bad people, VERY bad people out there who want to do harm to you and everyone you hold dear simply because you are free and because you have the freedom and the right to say those simply ridiculous things you said. The fortunate thing for you is that there are people who put on a uniform every day and put themselves at risk to protect your freedoms to think and say ignorant things.
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Snowden might be a traitor. That doesn't necessarily make him a liar.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
I would have said the SAME thing if he'd released the same thing under Bush 43. Or under Nixon. Or under the president that I despise the most, Woodrow Wilson. Why? Because I am retired Navy and know enough of military history to know how intelligence leaks have won or lost entire wars.

Compare that to Bradley (or Chelsea) Manning. He/she belongs in jail for many years, though IMO not necessarily for life. If Manning had ONLY released the video of the chopper killing the reporters, then Manning would have been a sorta-kinda hero...but Manning ALSO released a freaking quarter-million diplomatic cables, and it is almost certain that the release of the information therein hurt our diplomatic efforts and resulted in the deaths of overseas contacts who would have been named in those cables. The difference between Snowden and Manning is that I strongly doubt that Manning really knew the full extent of what he/she was doing...but Snowden DID.
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did you criticize the public release of the Pentagon Papers?
 
Well, he IS a hero...so what he says on this should carry more weight.
 
Shadowless said:
I am for all leaks of illegal/immoral behavior. The notion that it will jeopardize our national security is absurd. We should not be fighting these wars in the first place. We as citizens have a right to know this information, especially in the Snowden case. Our rights were violated, and a federal court has upheld that. There is zero evidence that what Snowden leaked has harmed a single person, or we would never hear the end of it from the establishment media.

Wikileaks and groups like that are our friends. They are looking out for our country and citizens more than our military industrial complex is, that's for sure.
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Did we have a choice in fighting WWII? Intelligence was what enabled our victories in the Battle of the Atlantic, the Battle of Midway, and a few others...and for the Soviets, enabled their victory in the Battle of Kursk.

On the other hand, Allied failures in prewar intelligence enabled the attacks on Pearl Harbor, Wake Island, the Philippines, et al...and for the Soviets, enabled the Wehrmacht to encircle and wipe out army after Soviet army in the early months of the war.

Our intel enabled JFK to call the Soviets' bluff when we blockaded their ships taking missiles to Cuba. Our intel enabled Nixon to reach out to Mao and warm our relations with them, and thus strengthen our hand against the Soviets.

WWII Soviet intel (by their greatest spy (that we know of) Richard Sorge) in Japan informed Stalin that the Japanese were not going to attack, and allowed the Soviets to make the decision to bring the winter-hardened Soviet armies from Siberia to launch winter offensives before Moscow. This in and of itself may have been the biggest single factor in the Soviets' overall victory on the Eastern Front...for if they had lost their war, we would have had no hope of succeeding in our invasion at Normandy.

In other words, a robust intel-gathering system domestically and internationally is CRUCIAL to the security of the state. I understand that you don't want to believe that, and that you believe it's a matter of right and wrong...and there have been many, many wrongs committed in the name of national security - I get all that. But the fact that great wrong is sometimes done in order to preserve national security does NOT mean that the nation should not do what is necessary and prudent to preserve the nation's security.
 
justabubba said:
did you criticize the public release of the Pentagon Papers?
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I was just a kid then...but you're comparing apples and oranges. There's a big difference between releasing tens of thousands of diplomatic cables willy-nilly (as Manning did) or expose our nation's deepest-held intel-gathering system (as Snowden did) and what happened with the Pentagon Papers. Manning and Snowden did what they did without any concern for how it would affect our intelligence community and capability. The Pentagon Papers, on the other hand, was a grand expose of the corruption that had infested the military-industrial complex and the Johnson and Nixon administrations in addition to the commission of what we would today call war crimes.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
I was just a kid then...but you're comparing apples and oranges. There's a big difference between releasing tens of thousands of diplomatic cables willy-nilly (as Manning did) or expose our nation's deepest-held intel-gathering system (as Snowden did) and what happened with the Pentagon Papers. Manning and Snowden did what they did without any concern for how it would affect our intelligence community and capability. The Pentagon Papers, on the other hand, was a grand expose of the corruption that had infested the military-industrial complex and the Johnson and Nixon administrations in addition to the commission of what we would today call war crimes.
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same exact issue
government did not want documents that would properly embarrass it to be released
in all three instances
 
justabubba said:
same exact issue
government did not want documents that would properly embarrass it to be released
in all three instances
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You're presenting a false equivalency. That's like saying that both apples and oranges are fruits, therefore they're the same thing when they obviously are not. The Pentagon Papers exposed crime and corruption on a grand scale...but it did not greatly damage our ability to gather and interpret intel. Manning's and (especially) Snowden's actions did.
 
MMC said:
Looks like he has competition HB. Don't forget they will be looking into what Renae had up earlier too.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...tage-info-and-more-hacker-threatens-sell.html
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It'll all come out eventually. Some things can't be hidden no matter the extent of the effort. It's just too available, too high profile, and too stupid to believe Hillary's crew thought they would be able to keep this crap under wraps. I don't know about you, well, yeah, I do - we don't want someone that ****ing stupid running the country.
 
humbolt said:
It'll all come out eventually. Some things can't be hidden no matter the extent of the effort. It's just too available, too high profile, and too stupid to believe Hillary's crew thought they would be able to keep this crap under wraps. I don't know about you, well, yeah, I do - we don't want someone that ****ing stupid running the country.
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Oh, now this just getting Hillaryarious.



Hillary Spokesman on Email Server: Look, I Don't Know What 'Wiped' Means, Okay?......


Playing dumb only works if people actually believe the act. This is just pitiful:



Hillary Spokesman on Email Server: Look, I Don't Know What 'Wiped' Means, Okay? - Guy Benson
 
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