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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Hmm even though years ago we recognize that Iran has not made any moves consistent with acquiring a bomb? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/wo...bomb.html?_r=0

    Even though we recognized along with Israel that they arent close to getting a bomb and that Israelis admit that the Iranians are using their enriched uranium for legitimate scientific purposes and not weapon purposes? US and Israel Recognize Iran Not Near a Bomb
    Why did you post that article. The interview is interestg to read. That much is true. But the heart of the matter is that Obama certainly does not need Iran to get a nuclear weapon on his watch and the Iranian government knows a weakness, when presented. The spin of everything being presently reported is consistent with that assumption. I think pinning any hope to the political presentation here is wishful.
    It is also irrelevant to strategy, or should be as long as the atomic weapons development hypothesis cannot be falsified and there is no program in place allowing continuing IAEA monitoring of Iran. I have thus far seen no such program and no such falsification.
    Actually, the IAEA pointed out in a 2013 report that it was uneasy about Iranian activities that were expencive, inconsistent with peaceful use but were sensible within a military use context.

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Even the OP says: It's not even 'tentative'.

    This has been planted by the 'diplomats' and, it seems, Obama still sucks.
    Mornin' Grant. Even topping with the Headline.


    The agreement would require Tehran to ship to Russia much of the material needed for the building of an atomic bomb, diplomats tell AP; Iran denies preliminary deal reached.....snip~

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i didn't see anything close to an agreement only that they continue to talk hopefully, long enough for iran to become the nuclear counterweight to israel in the region
    Why are you hopeful of that? Do you feel you can trust Iran with a nuclear weapon?

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Grant. Even topping with the Headline. The agreement would require Tehran to ship to Russia much of the material needed for the building of an atomic bomb, diplomats tell AP; Iran denies preliminary deal reached.....snip~
    Morning, MMC!

    Well if you can trust Putin, who can you trust??

    It seems many optimists don't read the OP's through before they submit them.

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Morning, MMC!

    Well if you can trust Putin, who can you trust??

    It seems many optimists don't read the OP's through before they submit them.

    Yeah, but TDS said he knows what tentatively means. It's just that the Iranians Idea of tentatively.....is to just say, NO!

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

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    Why are you hopeful of that? Do you feel you can trust Iran with a nuclear weapon?
    absolutely
    the iranians have proven it by not initiating a war with another nation in over 100 years
    unfortunately, we cannot say the same about israel for 10 months
    which is why it is compelling that the region have a counterbalance to israel's nuclear capacity
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    I'm scratching my head in wonder that the U.S. wants to negotiate with a party that it cannot believe and cannot trust. What possible good outcome for the U.S. could come out of it? We seem to want to throw our allies under the bus and pander to our enemies. There isn't an ounce of common sense in it. Baffling.

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I'm scratching my head in wonder that the U.S. wants to negotiate with a party that it cannot believe and cannot trust. What possible good outcome for the U.S. could come out of it? We seem to want to throw our allies under the bus and pander to our enemies. There isn't an ounce of common sense in it. Baffling.
    really?!!
    the USA deposed the iranian elected government and replaced it with the dictatorial shah who imposed a reign of terror upon the citizens of that country
    and it is we who should not trust them?
    stunning assessment
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

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    Alas!! Progress made! Right before the GOP brings in these "new sanctions" in diplomatic talks. Hopefully this will make the GOP back down on their hawkish rhetoric about Iran. I mean hell, they have been at it ever since we abadoned the fail policy of the Bush administration with Iran... But hey, of course that "OBAMA SUCKS!!!" crowd will scream and yell, but diplomacy with Iran has broken through, and hopefully it can be taken forward! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    I never heard of Haartz so I checked the MSM news, Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC etc and seen nothing on it. Then I googled it and I came up with this:

    Iran denies nuclear deal with US | World news | The Guardian

    So either the guardian is wrong or Haartz is wrong. Being that there is nothing in the MSM about the deal, I think I would side with the guardian for now. That does not mean I do not want a deal. I think the talks are a good thing and have been all for them. But I sure wouldn't go jumping up for joy until this story can be confirmed.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Iran and U.S. reach tentative agreement in nuclear talks

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    absolutely
    the iranians have proven it by not initiating a war with another nation in over 100 years
    unfortunately, we cannot say the same about israel for 10 months
    which is why it is compelling that the region have a counterbalance to israel's nuclear capacity
    What Iran did for 100 years is not relevant today. The fact is that the country is run now by religious nutcases who have already threatened Israel with a nuclear attack.

    Israel was in a war 10 months ago?

    You must be a Muslim.

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