No one is saying that the police doesn't step over their boundaries. But to run around and lie about it is a problem with police shooting and killing young black men isn't the way to solve the problem.
We always hear about re-training the police. Giving out sensitivity training. When are we going to hear about the Black community be retrained to be law abiding, productive, respectable citizens..
What about the all Hispanic neighborhoods.....me barrio. What changes? The perception for the police is the same.
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I think felony prosecution, and special prosecutors completely disassociated from local police forces, is the answer.
There can no longer be one set of laws for citizens and another for police.
Take the case of Eric Garner.
Clearly the guy was not as white as the driven snow.
But the six NYPD officers on the scene handled themselves like a pack of thugs.
Based on the ME's findings the manner in which Garner was "restrained" led directly to his death. Beyond that, Officer Daniel Pantaleo used a fighting tactic as a method of restraint that was forbidden by the NYPD.
Clearly there should have been an indictment handed down in that case.
But our broken criminal justice system prevented that from happening.
Police don't need to sit in on yet another "sensitivity training" Power Point and told, "Now, you know, you just can't do this, this, or this".
Cops who violate department police and directly contribute to the death of a citizen need to be immediately fired from the force on which they serve and prosecuted for manslaughter.
If they beat the charges, great, they're not criminals and they can go back to work on Monday.
But let the citizens make that determination. Not the prosecutors that the cops go out drinking with and have over to their homes for BBQs.
There was ample evidence in both the Garner and Brown cases for a lousy prosecutor to seek and gain and indictment.
I don't think the evidence in the Brown shooting would have led to Wilson's conviction, but let the people decide that based on all the evidence.
I think Pantaleo would have gone to jail, probably as a result of a plea to something less than manslaughter, but he would have, and should have been punished.
The way the system works now we've got the fox in charge of the hen house.
And things are never going to change that way, when the worst that is going to happen is that a guy rides a desk for a few weeks and then has to sit through a lecture.
How much tax money do you want to invest in that?When are we going to hear about the Black community be retrained to be law abiding, productive, respectable citizens.
Because I think it's probably a doable job, for the most part, but it's gonna be hella expensive.
Agreed.The perception for the police is the same.
The perception for police is that EVERYONE is a threat, and that EVERYONE can potentially take their life, and that ABOVE ALL ELSE officer safety is paramount.
Well, yeah, I guess, on the first two counts.
On the third, no.
Like I said in another post, if you don't want the job don't take it, but if you do understand that the citizenry comes first even at the risk of your own life. EVERY TIME. Even if the subject in question is a black, known, inner-city gang banger with a rap sheet half a mile long. He's innocent until proven guilty, and he isn't a threat to your life until he becomes a threat to your life. it's not okay to preemptively beat the piss out of him while your partner holds a gun to his head because, "I want to go home to my family too".
If going home to your family is so important, become an accountant.
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Heya WCH. Cops get shot and killed regularly and that doesn't count all the assaults upon them.
Police Killed By Guns Up 56% in 2014.....
A new report out found a sharp rise in the number of police officers killed by guns in 2014, including 15 of what the Associated Press calls "ambush" shootings.
As the Associated Press reports: The number of law enforcement officers killed by firearms jumped by 56 percent this year and included 15 ambush deaths... In 2011, 73 officers were killed in gunfire, the most in any year in the past decade. The average since 2004 is 55 police deaths annually.
In all, the report found that 126 federal, local, tribal and territorial officers were killed in the line of duty in 2014. That's a 24 percent jump from last year's 102 on-duty deaths, though below the average annual figures since 2004 and the all-time high of 156 in 1973, said Steve Groeninger, a spokesman for the memorial fund. Of the 126 officer deaths this year, shootings were the leading cause, followed by traffic-related fatalities, at 49.....snip~
Police Killed By Guns Up 56% in 2014 - Kevin Glass