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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Is 30,000 deaths/year from cars acceptable?
    You can improve that figure, there is no way to improve the deaths of 3,000 people on 9/11.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

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    If by 'fully prepared' someone means taking away even more rights just so a few spineless wimps can feel safer...FORGET IT.

    Since 9/11, America has given in too much already to these Americans sans backbones.

    If the only way America can be safe is to deny her people the rights that once made America so great, then let America die.

    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

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    You're dealing with a 'libertarian/leftist' here. That's all anyone needs to know.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can improve that figure, there is no way to improve the deaths of 3,000 people on 9/11.
    No way to improve the over 37,000 people who lost their lives in cars in 2001 either, is there a point? If you're not concerned with deaths at an order of magnitude above what you're complaining about, then why should one care. And that was 1 time. Since 911 over 400,000 people died in car wrecks. We care about that?

    It's not that we should excuse death, but why should I be more concerned with 3000 in a one time event vs 30000+ annually? It seems that maybe our efforts are misplaced. Certainly didn't need to get more than 3000 more Americans dead in a 13 year long war that's still going on. Imagine if we spent that money on driver education or roads or ways to make driving safer, we could have saved way more lives. If you don't care about 30,000 then why would you care about 3000?

    And not only that, now you want me to freak out over 0 deaths? Some imagined plot of nuclear attack or whatever I'm supposed to be scared of and thus be OK with government doing anything it wants. Please. Terrorism is not even close to our big killers, those probabilities are rather low. I don't think that going all Chicken Little will behoove us in the least.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No way to improve the over 37,000 people who lost their lives in cars in 2001 either, is there a point? If you're not concerned with deaths at an order of magnitude above what you're complaining about, then why should one care. And that was 1 time. Since 911 over 400,000 people died in car wrecks. We care about that?

    It's not that we should excuse death, but why should I be more concerned with 3000 in a one time event vs 30000+ annually? It seems that maybe our efforts are misplaced. Certainly didn't need to get more than 3000 more Americans dead in a 13 year long war that's still going on. Imagine if we spent that money on driver education or roads or ways to make driving safer, we could have saved way more lives. If you don't care about 30,000 then why would you care about 3000?

    And not only that, now you want me to freak out over 0 deaths? Some imagined plot of nuclear attack or whatever I'm supposed to be scared of and thus be OK with government doing anything it wants. Please. Terrorism is not even close to our big killers, those probabilities are rather low. I don't think that going all Chicken Little will behoove us in the least.

    There is really no comparisons..........The people that died in accidents made a conscious decision to ride or drive a car.......They knew that although small the chances of dying in and accident were were there.......The people that died on 9/11 in t hose buildings weree not concerned about dying...what happened with those airliners never happened before.......

    Surely someone as spaced out on whateven you sniff can see the difference. Probably not.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Exactly what rights have you given up? Me I have given up none.........'Giving up rights" is a left wing talking point."
    If you think Americans are as free now as before 9/11, you are politically blind and useless.

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    I don't give two hoots in hell whether we are as free after 9/11, or not. Inter armas silent leges, and we will damned well do whatever we need to do to destroy the enemies of the United States. The real threat to this country's freedoms comes from the dim, ignorant, America-hating hordes in the lumpenproletariat who--irony of ironies--dare to call themselves "liberal."

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I don't give two hoots in hell whether we are as free after 9/11, or not. Inter armas silent leges, and we will damned well do whatever we need to do to destroy the enemies of the United States. The real threat to this country's freedoms comes from the dim, ignorant, America-hating hordes in the lumpenproletariat who--irony of ironies--dare to call themselves "liberal."
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    I didn't know all those details about this man's communist affiliations, but they don't surprise me. There are millions now taking up space in this country, which was still great only several decades ago, who, just like this disgraceful, un-American President, resent it and do not wish it well. Obama should have been impeached a long time ago, but I can't see that happening to His Highness, America's First Black President. I see he just released five more jihadist SOB's from Guantanamo--wonder what the men in uniform think about that.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    There is really no comparisons..........The people that died in accidents made a conscious decision to ride or drive a car.......They knew that although small the chances of dying in and accident were were there.......The people that died on 9/11 in t hose buildings weree not concerned about dying...what happened with those airliners never happened before.......

    Surely someone as spaced out on whateven you sniff can see the difference. Probably not.
    There is comparison, it's called magnitude and probability. Death is what we're dealing with and on some level preventable death is preventable death. Do we spend massive time and money chasing down low probability dynamics, or do we invest it into something that could potentially have a much greater impact? I'd say the latter is likely the wiser move.

    What are we to do with your latest scare tactic here? This low probability event that you thnk should be forefont, what do you want us to do? Freak out like we did over Ebola? Do you want more government agencies? I mean we have what DoD, DoE, NSA, TSA, HLS, FBI, CIA and the Patriot Act giving them all sorts of power. Another agency, is that going to solve this problem? Should we be bombing more people, expanding our infinity war, will that help? What do you want here?

    I'm tired of fear mongers peddling their mathmatically insignificant tripe trying to excuse more and more government, spend more and more dollars, and get a greater number of Americans dead. Why am I supposed to freak out? We've accepted all sorts of probabilities that could kill me well before "terrorists". Why should I care, and what are you going to do about it? Because forever war...that **** don't work. If you have a reason and a plan, I'll hear you out. But this Chicken Little garbage needs to stop. It's getting us nowhere...actually no, it's taking us backwards.
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