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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, except that torture part.
    At the time those EITs were used, they were deemed legal.
    The legalities ground / public opinion / government opinion has shifted since then.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Sure. Just let me know which magical device you'd like to spend money on that makes us immune to terrorism.
    Don't believe he said that at all.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, except that torture part.
    I believe we should do whatever it takes to save American lives and that includes torture.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I believe we should do whatever it takes to save American lives and that includes torture.
    Its a sad day when America would lower its standards and sell out its integrity. If we ever reach the point that you suggest NP, then the Terrorists have won at having destroyed America and our way of life.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I believe we should do whatever it takes to save American lives and that includes torture.
    Problem is that it doesn't save American lives. That and it being ****ing torture.

    Or is there a ticking time bomb, 24 scenario, that counts down by the water board? 170 times must mean a reeeeeeally slow fuse.

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Someone define for me what it means to achieve being "fully prepared for a nuclear terrorist attack." (As in exactly, don't give me the typical and political I hate anything Obama is doing or did not do response.)

    Forgot to add... the article really does not do this, but makes some hints.
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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't think there's such thing as being "fully prepared for a nuclear terrorist attack."
    I saw a study which concluded that if a city were hit with a nuclear attack every hospital in the United States would instantly be overwhelmed. That's not something you can prepare for.

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    At the time those EITs were used, they were deemed legal.
    The legalities ground / public opinion / government opinion has shifted since then.
    In violation of international treaty to which the US is subject to. Treaties are supreme law of the land.

    Relabeling something doesn't change the law. The US government broke the law. It was always against the law, that never shifted.

    Additionally, torture violates the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the US constitution.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In violation of international treaty to which the US is subject to. Treaties are supreme law of the land.

    Relabeling something doesn't change the law. The US government broke the law. It was always against the law, that never shifted.

    Additionally, torture violates the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the US constitution.
    And all of those things were considered when the administration's legal eagles reviewed it, and wrote their opinions.

    Umm,
    In Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1957), the Supreme Court held stated that the U.S. Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate.
    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I dunno, but to my reading the supremacy clause doesn't apply to international treaties and federal laws,
    The Supremacy Clause is the provision in Article Six, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution that establishes the United States Constitution, federal statutes, and treaties as "the supreme law of the land." It provides that these are the highest form of law in the United States legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either a state constitution or state law of any state.
    Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'm thinking that the clause is specific to international treaties confirmed by the federal Senate supersede state laws that are in conflict.

    So the IEMs, are they federal? Or are they state? I'm thinking, since it stemmed from the federal government, executive branch, that it'd be federal, and supersedes any international treaties.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: US not fully prepared for nuclear terrorist attack

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Two of those locations involved zero fatalities!
    A terrorist event wouldn't have the safeguard of containment domes.

    There is still a 30 mile exclusion zone around Chernobyl 28 years after the disaster. I visited the complex a few years ago.

    My dosimeter read 3.62 µSv/h (microsievert per hour). Simply put, the radiation dose received in one hour of exposure is equivalent to what a typical person would receive in one year.


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