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Obama Apologizes to Castro

He has nothing to apologize for in this case, but it's incredible it took so long for us to begin to abandon this outdated and idiotic policy.

Yeah, now we're going to prop up a muderous regime. What could go wrong?
 
Already proven incorrect. I know what info they have because I know what Cuba does and doesn't release. Get serious.
Apparently Hatuey doesn’t know what the Castroit tyrannical regime release.
Cuban Gov. to Keep 92% of Worker Salaries
Cuban Gov. to Keep 92% of Worker Salaries - Havana Times.org

By Circles Robinson
December 16, 2014
What the Castroit tyrannical regime bootlickers are going to say about it? Would they freely give up 92% of their salaries and live in the island of Dr. Castro? Come on people, let us know where your progressive stance is in this subject. We love to hear about it.
 
Apparently Hatuey doesn’t know what the Castroit tyrannical regime release.

Havana Times? You may as well be citing PlanetPrison. Move along, troll.
 
Yes, because that is the only means for congress to assess Cuba-commie propaganda.

Military expenditure is not propaganda. It is raw data explaining a country's expenses. Your ignorance is getting more and more obvious. Why don't you go ask your Cuban friend to teach you about something other than beans and salsa? It will do you a lot of favors.
 
Military expenditure is not propaganda. It is raw data explaining a country's expenses. Your ignorance is getting more and more obvious. Why don't you go ask your Cuban friend to teach you about something other than beans and salsa? It will do you a lot of favors.

Its fascinating how you believe you have better info than the senate. Truly. It must be because you claim to be married to a Cuban.
 
Its fascinating how you believe you have better info than the senate.

Nope, I have the same information that they have on Cuba's military expenditure. That being: None. Because they're closely guarded state secrets that the Cuban government doesn't release. This fact is really hard for you to understand, isn't it?
 
Nope, I have the same information that they have on Cuba's military expenditure. That being: None.
But you have not proven your assertion. I asked you to prove it and you have failed time and time again.

All I ask is to prove you have the same info (or better) as the Senate select committees. Why can't you do that?
 
But you have not proven your assertion.

Of course I have, that you continue to state that the Senate has what the Cuban government doesn't make available is pretty laughable. Again, military expenditure is not something the Cuban government releases. The two people who directly manage military expenditure (Minister of AF/CinC) do not make these figures available to subordinates. This has been well known for decades (see: Cuban military blackout). That you're still trying to argue that the senate knows what the CIA doesn't is pretty ignorant of how the country's leadership actually operates.

Quit trying to save face, it's not working when you're just arguing that the senate knows what the Cuban government hasn't made available for 40 years.
 
Of course I have, that you continue to state that the Senate has what the Cuban government doesn't make available is pretty laughable. Again, military expenditure is not something the Cuban government releases. The two people who directly manage military expenditure (Minister of AF/CinC) do not make these figures available to subordinates. This has been well known for decades (see: Cuban military blackout). That you're still trying to argue that the senate knows what the CIA doesn't is pretty ignorant of how the country's leadership actually operates.

Quit trying to save face, it's not working when you're just arguing that the senate knows what the Cuban government hasn't made available for 40 years.

Are you suggesting that the CIA and Senate intelligence committee, amongst others releases everything it knows? And that they only know what the Cuban govt releases?

Your claims are just not credible, Im sorry.
 
Are you suggesting that the CIA and Senate intelligence committee, amongst others releases everything it knows?

Lmao, you're getting desperate. The CIA releases the military expenditures it does have. It compiles this information using its own sources as well as databases like SIPRI, World Bank etc. As it doesn't give a figure for Cuba's or for that matter that of any country which doesn't release it, they don't have it. This is verified by the fact that Cuba hasn't released its military expenditures (as part of its yearly budget) for decades. Your ignorance on this topic is obscene now.
 
As it doesn't give a figure for Cuba's or for that matter that of any country which doesn't release it, they don't have it.

So you are suggesting that the CIA and Senate intelligence committee, amongst others releases everything it knows. Fascinating. I guess thats one way to go. :cool:
 
So you are suggesting that the CIA and Senate intelligence committee, amongst others releases everything it knows.

What I am suggesting is that the CIA doesn't release information it doesn't have. It doesn't have Cuba's military expenditure, it won't release any figures (not even an estimate) on them. It has the military expenditures of a dozen other dictatorships, it has released them. The reason for this is simple: Cuba doesn't release those figures so the CIA doesn't have anything it can release. Your desperation is getting really embarrassing now.

Your inability to comprehend a simple point is really interesting though. Why does the CIA release information from 10-15 other dictatorships, but not Cuba's if it has it? What makes Cuba so special that its military expenditure can't be released? Well, nothing. Cuba simply doesn't release these figures so the CIA can only estimate without any real certainty. Though these estimates can be based on the meager information that we do have on Cuba, the CIA doesn't actually know how much the country spends.

The accuracy of their figures are dependent on a single source that doesn't make the figures available to begin with. As such, the best Rubio has is that his claims are based on what little Cuba makes available. Which is exactly nothing.
 
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What I am suggesting is that the CIA doesn't release information it doesn't have. It doesn't have Cuba's military expenditure, it won't release any figures (not even an estimate) on them. It has the military expenditures of a dozen other dictatorships, it has released them. The reason for this is simple: Cuba doesn't release those figures so the CIA doesn't have anything it can release. Your desperation is getting really embarrassing now.

Your inability to comprehend a simple point is really interesting though. Why does the CIA release information from 10-15 other dictatorships, but not Cuba's if it has it? What makes Cuba so special that its military expenditure can't be released? Well, nothing. Cuba simply doesn't release these figures so the CIA can only estimate without any real certainty. Though these estimates can be based on the meager information that we do have on Cuba, the CIA doesn't actually know how much the country spends.

The accuracy of their figures are dependent on a single source that doesn't make the figures available to begin with. As such, the best Rubio has is that his claims are based on what little Cuba makes available. Which is exactly nothing.

Keep dancing. I await a substantive reply.
 
Keep dancing. I await a substantive reply.

Lmao, I've already given them. That you refuse to accept them without providing any counter argument other than "The Senate knows more!" shows how little evidence to the contrary you actually have. It's fun when I win arguments because a person won't actually counter with evidence of their own and they just keep saying "nu-uh!". It's a pretty good indicator that they're not as well educated as they claim to be.
 
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Lmao, I've already given them. That you refuse to accept them without providing any counter argument other than "The Senate knows more!" shows how little evidence to the contrary you actually have. It's fun when I win arguments because a person won't actually counter with evidence of their own and they just keep saying "nu-uh!". It's a pretty good indicator that they're not as well educated as they claim to be.

Like the Senate Republicans, some posters can go on and on about subjects they have no information on.
 
Havana Times? You may as well be citing PlanetPrison. Move along, troll.
For sure Hatuey doesn’t know what the Castroit tyrannical regime release. According to him this is the PlanetPrison.
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Seem that Hatuey is a “Stormfront troll”.
 
One thing I noticed in Obama's speech in reference to normalizing diplomatic relations with Cuba was when Obama mentioned the word "immigration."

More undocumented Democrats having an easier access to America ?

Today's Cubans only know of one thing, free stuff from the government. And today's America can do it better than Cuba can today.
 
Sen. Menendez: One-sided deal rewards Cuba regime
Sen. Menendez: One-sided deal rewards Cuba regime

Robert Menendez
December 17, 2014

Alan Gross is home now. His five-year imprisonment for providing Internet access to Cuba's small Jewish community was cruel, arbitrary and consistent with the behavior of the Cuban regime.

By releasing Mr. Gross in exchange for three convicted Cuban spies who conspired to commit espionage against our nation, this administration has wrongly rewarded a totalitarian regime and thrown the Cuban regime an economic lifeline.

Click link above for full article.
The Democrat Senator from New Jersey Robert Menendez, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee got it wright. The swap of Alan Gross, an innocent civilian, for the three convicted spies, one of them to life in prison for his involvement of the shot down of two civilian Cessna aircrafts and killing of their four occupants, three of them American citizens, who was pardon by President Obama in order to proceed with the swap, is a very dangerous precedent since any American citizen oversees is easy prey by enemy countries to be used as a bargain chip for their terrorist imprison in the U.S.
 
There are thousands of American citizens living abroad and many thousand American tourists traveling worldwide, which could become the next Alan Cross. Who will be the next victim? A student, doctor, journalist, military, missionary, to be taken hostage due to Obama swap precedent that encourage hostage taking to use them as bargain chips.
 
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