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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    A bit off topic but the hospitals are in league with the insurance companies also just randomly jacking up prices making it nearly impossible for someone to just pay as they go with healthcare.
    They are not random price increases at all - they are by design. With the government cutting back on what it pays (reimburses) via Medicaid/Medicare, and still mandating that EMTA care still be "free", those costs are simply being added (shifted?) to the care that is paid for (and mandated to be at no out-of-pocket cost). I still get a substantial (20%) discount for paying cash at the time of treatment.

    How anyone could believe that adding a middle man for paying for routine health maintenance costs would lower the price (cost) of that care is beyond me. Imagine what your auto comprehensive premium rates would be if they included worn tire replacement, tune-ups and oil changes; then imagine what the repair/parts shops would charge since nobody (but the insurance companies) sees the actual bill. Insurance companies make their money based on a percentage of total volume and thus have ZERO incentive to keep costs down, in fact, the higher the cost of "routine maintenance" treatments go then the more they make per patient as their premiums rise.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Never was.
    And now that they saw what she brings to the Party they're thinking maybe the radical native American nun would be a better choice but we better start building her up now.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Warren has the singular disadvantage of being from Massachusetts - a state which rightly or wrongly has a decidedly negative reputation among areas of the rest of the nation. That would be an obstacle to overcome.

    She does have a stellar record and is exactly what the Dems need however.

    Clinton has the disadvantage of being old news for a very long time now.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Ugh

    Elizabeth Warren on Gun Control

    If a magazine surpasses ten rounds she hates it. She wants to ban said magazines...

    Hillary Clinton on Gun Control

    She's still hung up on this whole idea of banning assault weapons, but at least she seems to believe gun control is a state issue and not federal issue, so she wouldn't push for anything on the federal level.

    I hope Warren gets pummeled by Hillary but oh well if she doesn't, not like I'll be old enough when the time to vote comes anyway (although 2020 I'll have to keep an eye on the candidates becaus eby then I WILL be old enough to vote).
    Re: bolded part....I think Hillary would have no interest in gun legislation except for the fact that she thinks it would win her votes. Warren, on the other hand, is nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake, and would ban guns in a second.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Warren has the singular disadvantage of being from Massachusetts - a state which rightly or wrongly has a decidedly negative reputation among areas of the rest of the nation. That would be an obstacle to overcome.

    She does have a stellar record and is exactly what the Dems need however.

    Clinton has the disadvantage of being old news for a very long time now.
    A "stellar" record of what specifically?
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Warren has the singular disadvantage of being from Massachusetts - a state which rightly or wrongly has a decidedly negative reputation among areas of the rest of the nation. That would be an obstacle to overcome.

    She does have a stellar record and is exactly what the Dems need however.

    Clinton has the disadvantage of being old news for a very long time now.
    What, exactly, is that stellar record?

    She has been in office since 1/3/2013 and is described the "senior" Senator from MA.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What, exactly, is that stellar record?

    She has been in office since 1/3/2013 and is described the "senior" Senator from MA.

    Elizabeth Warren - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    At a time when many democrats seem to be joining the Wall Street crowd - she stands tall defending the average person. That in itself is worthy of praise.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    At a time when many democrats seem to be joining the Wall Street crowd - she stands tall defending the average person. That in itself is worthy of praise.
    Yep, by having helped to dole out TARP funds.

    Don't let those evil investment bankers pick and choose winners/losers let the much wiser gov't elites do that instead.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    At a time when many democrats seem to be joining the Wall Street crowd - she stands tall defending the average person. That in itself is worthy of praise.
    That in itself is what is alliteratively called posturing pandering populism.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren poses a challenge to Hillary in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hmmmm looks like it's not a shoe-in for Hillary.
    It seldom is a shoe-in for anybody, but on a tangent, I did see my first 2016 bumper sticker this week. It was for Carson.

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