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Demario Bailey, 15, fatally shot during robbery attempt, police say suspects in custo

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but are some folks having a problem with the condemnation of black on black murder?
 
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sangha said:
On the internet, you mean

Please let me know if you ever grow the balls to go into one of those black neighborhoods and tell them this to their face. I'd like to go with you and show my suppport
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Suggesting that black neighborhoods should take a stand against black on black crime is...offensive?
 
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apdst said:
Suggesting that black neighborhoods should take a stand against black on black crime is...offensive?
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Suggesting that they havent is not only offensive, but racist
 
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JackSchlitz said:
This is the sort of thing blacks need to be concerned about..............this and very similar things are taking the lives of great numbers of black teens.....the numbers killed by police pale in compariston to events like this>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/video/demario-bailey-15-fatally-shot-041339405.html

Yet the so called black leadership fails to address, politicians black and white fail to address it.
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I'm assuming that the suspects are white cops.

Maybe another protest or some good, old fashioned looting and burning will solve this.
 
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JackSchlitz said:
The purpose of the thread is to show that blacks need to be more concerned about how 93% of their people are actually being killed and it is not by the white pooeeelice. got dat?
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sangha said:
I, for one, want to thank you for speaking out on behalf of all black people and telling them what they should think.

Please let me know if you ever grow the balls to go into one of those black neighborhoods and tell them this to their face. I'd like to go with you and show my suppport
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I think it's pretty clear that those communities will need to come to this realization on their own. No one can try and tell them this is what they need to be worried about. You just have to look at how much traction on this topic that Bill Cosby got. Doesn't matter in the least to these communities that he's 100% right.

You know, you can lead a horse to water . . . .

In this context, I guess we all have to wait for them to come to this realization and actually do something about it for themselves. I sure wish they'd hurry up and come to this realization.
 
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sangha said:
Suggesting that they havent is not only offensive, but racist
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Why is it racist?
Have they in fact actually come to this realization? That they themselves hold the key to reducing this black on black violence?

Where are all the protests and marches and activism to further this agenda? To actually DO something about this? I've not seen any. Have you?
 
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apdst said:
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but are some folks having a problem with the condemnation of black on black murder?
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Apparantly so...rather interesting eh? Not suprising though...they only seem to get upset if a white cop dispatches one.
 
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sangha said:
Suggesting that they havent is not only offensive, but racist
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What normally prevents arrests is the lack of a witness; in this case it seems that the living brother was running away and did not see who fired the shot that killed his twin brother.

Several "persons of interest" who had been in custody were released Sunday morning without being charged, Chicago police spokesman Thomas Sweeney said.
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http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-82277817/
 
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apdst said:
Suggesting that black neighborhoods should take a stand against black on black crime is...offensive?
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The problem they have with it is that it denigrates their agenda of blacks being the victims of whites......the phoney liberal narrative aka the politics of black victimhood.

The Politics of Race: "Perpetual Victimhood"
 
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JackSchlitz said:
Unbelievable lack of comprehension...now undoubtedly reinoe is a black and may very well be representative of the attitudes in the black community....maybe this kind of thinking is part of the problem....not understanding that all these blacks killing other blacks is the problem...not how the white poeleece investigate it or how the criminal justice system locks up the perps if they are caught....can anyone say overflowing jails?
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LOLOLOL. I came for the curious title, but I'm going to stay for the racism.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Why is it racist?
Have they in fact actually come to this realization? That they themselves hold the key to reducing this black on black violence?

Where are all the protests and marches and activism to further this agenda? To actually DO something about this? I've not seen any. Have you?
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All too often it is gang related and the penalty for "snitching" is swift and assured while the criminal justice system is hit and miss. In this case there was likely only one witness, that may either not be able to identify the shooter or fears what will become of himself and/or his family should he identify one or more of the suspects.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Why is it racist?
Have they in fact actually come to this realization? That they themselves hold the key to reducing this black on black violence?

Where are all the protests and marches and activism to further this agenda? To actually DO something about this? I've not seen any. Have you?
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No problem can be solved until it is recognized a problem exists....the so called black leadership(race hustlers) will not talk about this problem to any extent, white politicians dare not go there because they will quickly be abled racist.

Real Solutions for Black Americans
 
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sangha said:
Suggesting that they havent is not only offensive, but racist
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Have they?
 
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eohrnberger said:
I think it's pretty clear that those communities will need to come to this realization on their own.
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No, what is clear is that there are racists whose ignorance and bigotry lead them to believe that blacks are so stupid that they do not realize this already. But then again, this is not clear to the bigots

You know, you can lead a horse to water . . . .

In this context, I guess we all have to wait for the bigots to come to this realization and actually do something about it for themselves. I sure wish they'd hurry up and come to this realization.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Why is it racist?
Have they in fact actually come to this realization? That they themselves hold the key to reducing this black on black violence?

Where are all the protests and marches and activism to further this agenda? To actually DO something about this? I've not seen any. Have you?
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As I said in my earlier post, the ignorance of bigots is not something I can dispel. Those bigots will have to come to the realizations about black people on their own
 
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whysoserious said:
LOLOLOL. I came for the curious title, but I'm going to stay for the racism.
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What did you find curious about the title?...and how can a title be curious?
 
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sangha said:
No, what is clear is that there are racists whose ignorance and bigotry lead them to believe that blacks are so stupid that they do not realize this already. But then again, this is not clear to the bigots

You know, you can lead a horse to water . . . .

In this context, I guess we all have to wait for them to come to this realization and actually do something about it for themselves. I sure wish they'd hurry up and come to this realization.
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Given the repudiation that Cosby received from seemingly every corner, while making these very observances and calling attention to them, it seems that they've not come to this realization.

If you have evidence of this or a citation of otherwise, I'd welcome to see / read it, as this means that we all are one step closer to a solution and / or the issue being address, all the better for all of us, I'd say.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Given the repudiation that Cosby received from seemingly every corner, while making these very observances and calling attention to them, it seems that they've not come to this realization.

If you have evidence of this or a citation of otherwise, I'd welcome to see / read it, as this means that we all are one step closer to a solution and / or the issue being address, all the better for all of us, I'd say.
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You bring up a interesting point about Bill Cosby ...he dared tell blacks some things they needed to hear....the liberal media considered that 'talking down to blacks' and is precisely the reason they turned on him with such vengance...not denying he had some problems with women....but the mass media would never have launched their campaign against him if he had not wandered of the liberal plantation and dared speak some truths....even the comedian who sparked the tirade against Cosby made it clear he was upset by 'Cosby talking down to blacks'
 
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eohrnberger said:
Given the repudiation that Cosby received from seemingly every corner, while making these very observances and calling attention to them, it seems that they've not come to this realization.

If you have evidence of this or a citation of otherwise, I'd welcome to see / read it, as this means that we all are one step closer to a solution and / or the issue being address, all the better for all of us, I'd say.
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Since you seem to think that Cosby was "repudiated" by black people "from seemingly every corner", I doubt there's anything I can tell you that will change your mind. As I indicated, there's nothing I can do make others come to the necessary realizations. They will have to come to those realizations on their own.
 
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JackSchlitz said:
What did you find curious about the title?...and how can a title be curious?
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I think the ticker I saw cut off the title to only say that a 15 y/o was shot, so I was curious about what happened.

And then things got interesting. :)
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
All too often it is gang related and the penalty for "snitching" is swift and assured while the criminal justice system is hit and miss. In this case there was likely only one witness, that may either not be able to identify the shooter or fears what will become of himself and/or his family should he identify one or more of the suspects.
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The venacular in the hood is "stitches for snitches" a well recognized problem in those areas.
 
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whysoserious said:
I think the ticker I saw cut off the title to only say that a 15 y/o was shot, so I was curious about what happened.

And then things got interesting. :)
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The mods changed my title.
 
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Lutherf said:
I'm assuming that the suspects are white cops.

Maybe another protest or some good, old fashioned looting and burning will solve this.
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No the suspects are blacks....ever heard of cops killing a teenager for his clothes....apparantly they wanted his coat but he wouldnt give it up.
 
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sangha said:
Since you seem to think that Cosby was "repudiated" by black people "from seemingly every corner", I doubt there's anything I can tell you that will change your mind. As I indicated, there's nothing I can do make others come to the necessary realizations. They will have to come to those realizations on their own.
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I'm sorry, perhaps repudiated was overly strong word to use. He did not escape without criticism from the black community.
Cosby's remarks sparked a debate in the black community. Some criticized Cosby for fueling negative racial stereotypes and giving credence to conservative beliefs that the problems facing African Americans are self-imposed. But others applauded him for talking about the importance of personal responsibility, and still others found themselves split on how they viewed his message.
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Cosby Defends Criticism of Black Community (washingtonpost.com)

"I worked hard to pull myself up by the bootstraps . . . but a lot of our people are still in the trenches trying to make it," he said. Cosby "needs to get off his soapbox and get back to his TV shows. When he was Dr. Huxtable on 'The Cosby Show,' he was the role model that motivated me. He needs to get back to those positive messages."

Hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons praised Cosby as "a great American" but said that "pointing the finger may not be helpful -- we still have more struggle as a society and more work to do" to reform it. He rejected the notion that hip-hop music has had a coarsening effect, saying it "is the soundtrack that reflects the struggle" of young people today.

Cosby may be oversimplifying a problem that defies easy solution, said Mario Beatty, a history professor at Bowie State University. "We have to confront these social problems, but the solution is not as simple as having someone change their behavior," he said. ". . . One has to clearly understand the causes of the problem."
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Debate Continues as Cosby Again Criticizes Black Youths (washingtonpost.com)

Already Simmons, who make money off of the bad values typically portrayed and glorified in hip-hop, is already distancing himself from that.

This was back in 2004. It's not 10 years later. Has the block on black crime rate increased or decreased in these 10 years. I think they've increased, and the reports coming from Chicago kinda backs that up.

So, the message was heard. Yet I detect nothing was done. Again, if you have a citation or reference to contrary, do please post it, I'd more than welcome learning that we are further along in the process of improving the situation than not.
 
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