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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nah. Don't engage. At all. Why should you? It's not like black lives REALLY matter. Just the ones you can exploit.
    As if the right ever cares about black lives when they can't be exploited.
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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Nobody is saying that black on black crime isn't a problem.
    The problem is that no one is saying it IS.

    Imagine the potential for change if instead of engaging only 3 times in almost 8 years now and only to pop in and comment wrongly about a case involving a cop and a professor, wrongly involving his 'son, and sending a delegation to the funeral of a thug who the evidence clearly shows attacked a store clerk and a cop...instead of picking 3 very bad moments to pander to the black community the president made it a consistent effort to bring in community leaders, religious leaders, education leaders, and business leaders, and specifically acted to help stem the tide of black on black crime, to promote a better and stronger sense of community with more and more effective police relationships, rebuilding and renovating dwellings, improved the education system (not just throw money at it but improve it, build some tech schools to train people for decent middle to upper middle income jobs, and then enticed and even if necessary subsidized US and foreign industry to build and employ in communities accessible to the black population. Change overnight? Nah. WOuld it cost money? Yep and we would need both government and private investment. but we COULD actually see long term change.

    Or....

    we can just continue to ignore the actual problems and hold riots and rallies whenever we get the chance.

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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Wasn't our president supposed to have been a community organizer?

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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    As if the right ever cares about black lives when they can't be exploited.
    I would say a far more accurate statement would be that most on the right dont bother trying to exploit the black community because there is no value added...no profit. Nothing they say or do is likely to hold return on investment. On the other hand, the left is absolutely invested in exploiting black lives...they just arent invested in HELPING black lives.

    Now...have we got that out of the way? Care to address the reality that we see millions chanting, rioting, protesting, looting, all triggered by a thug dying by his own actions and a questionable grand jury decision. Because...you know...black lives matter. Meanwhile, 3700 black people have been killed by black on black gun violence alone since those 2. and no one cares.

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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The problem is that no one is saying it IS.
    The only thing you've proven with that statement is how you ignore what black people are saying so that you can exploit the deaths of black people

    Black People Are Not Ignoring 'Black on Black' Crime - The Atlantic

    Why Don't Black People Protest 'Black-on-Black Violence'? - The Atlantic

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I would say a far more accurate statement would be that most on the right dont bother trying to exploit the black community
    You are exploiting black lives every time you claim that no one is protesting black on black violence in order to distract attention from the deaths of black people at the hands of police officers.

    Now...have we got that out of the way? Care to address the reality that we see millions chanting, rioting, protesting, looting, all triggered by a thug dying by his own actions and a questionable grand jury decision. Because...you know...black lives matter. Meanwhile, 3700 black people have been killed by black on black gun violence alone since those 2. and no one cares.
    You can lie all you want about how no one cares but all you're proving is how your exploitation of the deaths of black people requires dishonesty

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_the_Violence_Movement

    The Stop the Violence Movement was begun by rapper KRS-One in 1989 in response to violence in the hip hop and African American communities.

    In 1988, during a concert by Boogie Down Productions and Public Enemy, a young fan was killed in a fight. The killing occurred shortly after Scott La Rock, a founding member of Boogie Down Productions, was killed in a shooting. KRS-One responded to these deaths by forming the Stop the Violence Movement to advance a vision of hip hop that would restore what he called hip hop's original principles to the music industry
    KRS-One once again relaunched his campaign in the late 2008 in order to provide his new years resolution. This version includes Twista, Syleena Johnson, Phil G, Crucial Conflict, Kenny Bogus, Straw and Pugz Atomz.
    DJ Kay Slay also produced a version of "Self Destruction" that samples the original more heavily. It features MCs Sheek Louch, Busta Rhymes, Papoose, Bun B, Uncle Murda, and Jay Rock.
    Another version was made by a group of MC's from Jersey City; this version is extremely similar to the original—it even mimics the flow of the original MC's.
    Did you read that? Since 1989

    IOW, you've been ignoring black people for at least 35 years (that is, except when you lie about them in order to exploit their deaths for your political agenda)
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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The only thing you've proven with that statement is how you ignore what black people are saying so that you can exploit the deaths of black people

    Black People Are Not Ignoring 'Black on Black' Crime - The Atlantic

    Why Don't Black People Protest 'Black-on-Black Violence'? - The Atlantic

    'Stop the Violence' march seeks to continue to help reduce violent crime in Saginaw | MLive.com

    Help us stop the killing, Gary officials, residents implore - Post-Tribune

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    You are exploiting black lives every time you claim that no one is protesting black on black violence in order to distract attention from the deaths of black people at the hands of police officers.



    You can lie all you want about how no one cares but all you're proving is how your exploitation of the deaths of black people requires dishonesty

    Stop the Violence Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





    Did you read that? Since 1989

    IOW, you've been ignoring black people for at least 35 years (that is, except when you lie about them in order to exploit their deaths for your political agenda)


    PERfect.

    You cited a song from 1989 (ever heard that song? Dont lie!). And they re-released a version of it 20 years later (ever hear THAT version? Dont lie!). And what did they do for the 20 years in between? Cuz...like...we are just TRIPPING over their organization and their day to day efforts to bring about change...right?

    Oh...and as for the other ever so present attempts at rallies (you know...the once every year, once every other year, every five years events)...lets see...one of them attracted an estimated 150 people ('estimated' usually means about 50 people showed up). Another attracted 88 (wahoo...they counted ALL of them). Hell...we had 128 people at our small little annual DV candlelight vigil in October. 50 gathered at one of them in Gary Indiana 2012. Powerful! Mind you...nothing since...but hey...baby steps, right? Oh...and BTW...SINCE that 50 person 'spontaneous' rally there were 98 murders in 2 years alone. 2014 is shaping up to be far worse. and their 80 deaths per 100,000 gives Gary the title of Murder Capital of the World.

    Yeah man...when it comes to caring and engaging...you are just 'killing' it.

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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

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    PERfect.

    You cited a song from 1989 (ever heard that song? Dont lie!). And they re-released a version of it 20 years later (ever hear THAT version? Dont lie!). And what did they do for the 20 years in between? Cuz...like...we are just TRIPPING over their organization and their day to day efforts to bring about change...right?

    Oh...and as for the other ever so present attempts at rallies (you know...the once every year, once every other year, every five years events)...lets see...one of them attracted an estimated 150 people ('estimated' usually means about 50 people showed up). Another attracted 88 (wahoo...they counted ALL of them). Hell...we had 128 people at our small little annual DV candlelight vigil in October. 50 gathered at one of them in Gary Indiana 2012. Powerful! Mind you...nothing since...but hey...baby steps, right? Oh...and BTW...SINCE that 50 person 'spontaneous' rally there were 98 murders in 2 years alone. 2014 is shaping up to be far worse. and their 80 deaths per 100,000 gives Gary the title of Murder Capital of the World.

    Yeah man...when it comes to caring and engaging...you are just 'killing' it.
    That's far more effort than the...

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    Re: 15 yr. old Black Teen killed during attempted robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    That's far more effort than the...

    "Vancemark Pretend We Care Bitchfest On The Internet Extravaganza"

    It has one attendee localized to one internet forum.
    You may not realize what you have stumbled onto, but this place is called a 'debate forum'. It is a place where people gether to discuss ideas, viewpoints, countering viewpoints, etc. Theoretically...the level of ones 'care' demonstrated here is limited to the amount of time and attention dedicated to specific causes or ideas represented on these things called 'threads'. I do 'care' and have offered actual ideas on changing things. Unfortunately, too many people like you are invested in saying "Hey! **** you about that whole caring thing! I care even though I NEVER discuss it in any way shape or form and always am quick to divert attention from it when it comes up. THATS how much I care, bitch! SO eat it!"

    Cuz yeah...you 'care'....

    Now...in the real world, what I do isnt really any of yours or anyone elses business and the last thing I give a **** about is impressing people like you. No...I dont do much by way of charities or activities to end black on black crime. Truth be told...where I live the people I tend to work with that come from a criminal background are far more likely to be Native American and Latino than black. Ive run prison groups...Ive run parolee groups. I work with several organizations but I can/must honestly say, none of them are 'end black on black violence' charitable organizations. Then again...we also dont have much by way of police brutality against blacks here either.

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    The root of this problem is a lack of positive role models and that the parents are screwed up for whatever reason and not being parents. The other problem is lack off opportunities in the black communities. Englewood on Chicago's south side is a barren wasteland. Businesses don't invest in these communities. They open up shop in the affluent white neighborhoods on the North side. This isn't an easy problem with easy solutions. It is tragic.

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