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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    No fetish, that chicken**** mother****er is a turd. I'd rather have lunch with Jane ****ing Fonda. Actually, I once refused to take an elevator with Jane Fonda, but that's another story.
    He eats liberals for breakfast.
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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, it is not a fact at all.
    No Japanese were hanged because of water-boarding. It's interesting to see how this BS is spread around the internet though.


    You are wrong.

    Learn the facts here: Correction: U.S. Actually Did Execute Japanese Soldiers For Waterboarding | Crooks and Liars

    The truth may not always be what you want to hear but the truth will always be the truth.

    Deal with it.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He eats liberals for breakfast.
    He also has an appetite for cute kittens.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    He also has an appetite for cute kittens.
    And don't you forget it.
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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Dick Cheney gave an unflinching defense of the CIA's pos-9/11 torture program on "Meet the Press on Sunday, dismissing criticisms of the program's forced rectal feedings, waterboarding and deaths.

    "It worked. It absolutely did work," said Cheney, a driving force behind the George W.Bush administrations use of harsh tactics in response to the 9/11 attacks.

    Read the article here: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Mr Cheney is certainly entitled to his opinion, but a lot of people on this planet, including me, don't agree and would like to see him put on trial for war crimes.

    What do you guys think? Will he ever be VP again?
    Be VP again? Seriously? No, he is a has been.

    I will say this, most of us have never been in a position, that of leadership where one has to make a decision that could result in the lose of lives or saving lives. We are looking back on events with 20-20 hindsight knowing no more 9-11's happened. When these decisions were made, those making them didn't have that advantage. The fear of another 9-11 or something similar was very real. The question was how best to protect American lives and country.

    One can say the weight of the world, the nation were upon the president's and VP shoulders. It was never on ours. There is an old adage, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I don't know what was in Cheney's mind, but in a case right after 9-11 I can see where one would want to error on the prevention side of things. To do otherwise with lives at risk might be considered very foolish and irresponsible.

    Also the general public does not know if the enhanced interrogation worked or not. Those who have come forward and said one way or the other are one's for the most part with political agendas and they do push them hard. I doubt if we will ever know, the general public until 50 years down the road. It is very possible the information, the intel obtained prevented another 9-11, that it helped lead to the death of UBL and other terrorist leaders and stopped plots. It is also possible that the enhanced interrogation lead to nothing.

    But one things is certain, those who believe one way or the other will certainly grab onto whomever is saying what they want to hear and spout that as gospel. While the truth is, we really do not know and won't know until those who did the interrogations come forward and talk or their reports are declassified and released which I doubt will not happen for a very long time if ever.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Mr. Cheney is a great American.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Be VP again? Seriously? No, he is a has been.

    I will say this, most of us have never been in a position, that of leadership where one has to make a decision that could result in the lose of lives or saving lives. We are looking back on events with 20-20 hindsight knowing no more 9-11's happened. When these decisions were made, those making them didn't have that advantage. The fear of another 9-11 or something similar was very real. The question was how best to protect American lives and country.
    There is no theory under which Cheney is not an evil old man who took advantage of 9/11 to start a war in Iraq.
    Last edited by Amadeus; 12-15-14 at 09:42 AM.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    There is no theory under which Cheney is not an evil old man who took advantage 9/11 to start a war in Iraq.
    You are welcome to try and prove that.
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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Atiya View Post
    There is no danger of Dick Cheney ever being VP again in this life time. He was never voted for himself by the American people, but usually appointed to positions....the first GWB administration was stolen via partisan US Supreme Court. Clearly, everyone could see GWB was totally UNqualified to be president....hell, he could barely speak English. He was previously a heavy cocaine user...so much so he damaged his nasal septum; he also was a heavy drinker of hard liquor.

    Dick Cheney hijacked the naive GWB admin, and poor Bush jr. never knew what was happening until the sixth year of his presidency. Dick Cheney will never ever admit he made a huge error invading Iraq and the one who authorized the torture program for to admit to such would have him face he's a sinister, thirsty coldblooded monster. Cheney proved he did not have a heart by spearheading the torture regime for those captured.
    You are an excellent fiction writer. I enjoyed reading it.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Wrong.

    The USA hanged Japanese soldiers after WWII because they waterboarded American POWs. That's a fact.

    Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
    That sentence in bold is not a fact as written. Japanese soldiers were not executed for "waterboarding". They were executed for torture. Waterboarding was just one of a host of other acts committed.

    More correctly you could claim that following WWII the United States viewed the act of waterboarding as torture.

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