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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, if we never talked about her flaws then she would probably be elected.

    I agree that she will have a harder time than some think. Hell, I think the Clinton/Clinton -vs- Warren/Obama showdown will be epic.

    It makes the coming showdown between the old guard GOP and the new conservative GOP seem tame in comparison.
    IMO, you sound like one of those logically minded conservatives, who really can see the bigger scheme of things.

    Being left leaning myself, I can't see me voting again for a Clinton, and I can't see voting for Warren either. Might as well say I'm a voter without a candidate, if I were to tow the party line. The democrat politicians I really like, will not run. There's one independent I would have voted for, but he is way too far left leaning progressive.

    When you say old guard GOP, I think of Reganites, not of a Bush era GOP member. The old ones knew how to wheel and deal and how to give what others wanted, while walking away with something republican constituents wanted.

    The herd of politicians we have these days would make the established GOP and democrats who have passed on turn over in their graves.
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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    IMO, you sound like one of those logically minded conservatives, who really can see the bigger scheme of things.

    Being left leaning myself, I can't see me voting again for a Clinton, and I can't see voting for Warren either. Might as well say I'm a voter without a candidate, if I were to tow the party line. The democrat politicians I really like, will not run. There's one independent I would have voted for, but he is way too far left leaning progressive.

    When you say old guard GOP, I think of Reganites, not of a Bush era GOP member. The old ones knew how to wheel and deal and how to give what others wanted, while walking away with something republican constituents wanted.

    The herd of politicians we have these days would make the established GOP and democrats who have passed on turn over in their graves.

    By "old guard" I mean the ones still living and serving in Congress, obviously.

    There have been worse splits in Congress in this country's history and we eventually work through them. The problem I have with the current establishment GOP is that their middle always wants to enter in to compromise negotiations already conceding their espoused principals before talks even start. I think the country would be better served with true progressives and conservatives who don't lie about what they believe but are willing to discuss common ground. As Reagan once said, we should be parties of bold colors, no pale pastels.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    As polls consistently show, Americans overwhelmingly support Cheney's position.

    Six in 10 See CIA Actions as Justified As Many Question Committee Report - ABC News

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    As polls consistently show, Americans overwhelmingly support Cheney's position.

    Six in 10 See CIA Actions as Justified As Many Question Committee Report - ABC News
    That is a very positive sign!

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    By "old guard" I mean the ones still living and serving in Congress, obviously.

    There have been worse splits in Congress in this country's history and we eventually work through them. The problem I have with the current establishment GOP is that their middle always wants to enter in to compromise negotiations already conceding their espoused principals before talks even start. I think the country would be better served with true progressives and conservatives who don't lie about what they believe but are willing to discuss common ground. As Reagan once said, we should be parties of bold colors, no pale pastels.
    Well, after the 1.1 trillion dollar budget was passed by the house, and then the senate, and signed by Obama, I'd really thought hell had frozen over or something. We only had a slight green eggs and ham this time, or is it green ham and eggs?

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Quote Originally Posted by KLATTU View Post
    As polls consistently show, Americans overwhelmingly support Cheney's position.

    Six in 10 See CIA Actions as Justified As Many Question Committee Report - ABC News
    Recall that there was a time when 10 out of 10 polled believed the earth was the center of the universe.

    Americans are notoriously known as brainwashed. The effort is incessant, and most folks know that, though they may not like to talk about it.

    With John Yoo and Dick Cheney blasting americans with their sophistry for more than a decade now, it's no wonder 60% of Americans live in an alternate reality in which torture is a good thing for the government to practice.

    No surprise here. The events of 911 served many purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Recall that there was a time when 10 out of 10 polled believed the earth was the center of the universe.

    Americans are notoriously known as brainwashed. The effort is incessant, and most folks know that, though they may not like to talk about it.

    With John Yoo and Dick Cheney blasting americans with their sophistry for more than a decade now, it's no wonder 60% of Americans live in an alternate reality in which torture is a good thing for the government to practice.

    No surprise here. The events of 911 served many purposes.
    So you believe they didn't do it for national security purposes.They just blasted all that sophistry because they just wanted to see some people effed up?
    The events of 9/11 did indeed serve a purpose. It was a stark reminder of just what radical Islam is all bout.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    Great...let's have the CIA torture again...starting with Cheney.

    I think they should torture him until he no longer wants the CIA to torture people.

    If he never does and it kills him...problem solved.

    And if he changes his mind...problem solved.

    No lose situation.

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    Re: Dick Cheney Would Torture Again

    ol Dick says he would torture again..then I guess the only person that should be worried with that is Liz.


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