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Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

Anybody and group has the right to strike. It's a constitutionally protected right under "redress of grievances".

YOU can run your company any way you want to. The fact remains however that you become a target for an organizing drive.

sure you can go strike and you can lose your job if you aren't in a union pretty simple.
nope it isn't a constitutional right.

not really since I don't run a company, but if I did I would expect them to show up for work when they are supposed to.
 
i think that we should guarantee post secondary education or job training for everyone. not doing that is costing us too much money.

and i see no reason to let any kid drop out of high school. that is really costing us money.

they already offer that to anyone and everyone. anyone getting out of high school can do either.
I did.

I went to college got a degree in Computer Science.
bad timing. I graduated with a 2 year degree instead of 4.
companies started wanting 4 year degree's.

a few years later I went back and got my 4 year in network communications management.

it got me my job with my current company. everyone starts off at the bottom here due to the nature of the business, but 6 months in I was promoted.
by year 3 I was making 15 an hour for basic operations work.

was with them 6 years and got promoted to what I do now which is a project analyst. I travel the world.
 
they already offer that to anyone and everyone. anyone getting out of high school can do either.
I did.

I went to college got a degree in Computer Science.
bad timing. I graduated with a 2 year degree instead of 4.
companies started wanting 4 year degree's.

a few years later I went back and got my 4 year in network communications management.

it got me my job with my current company. everyone starts off at the bottom here due to the nature of the business, but 6 months in I was promoted.
by year 3 I was making 15 an hour for basic operations work.

was with them 6 years and got promoted to what I do now which is a project analyst. I travel the world.

our average student loan debt is $29,400. come on, man. don't pretend like there isn't a problem.

Average student loan debt: $29,400 - Dec. 4, 2013

we should strive for as educated of a population as possible. we all benefit immensely from that.
 
sure you can go strike and you can lose your job if you aren't in a union pretty simple.
nope it isn't a constitutional right.

not really since I don't run a company, but if I did I would expect them to show up for work when they are supposed to.

Going on strike and shutting a company down through neighborhood support and respect for the picket line is exactly how nonunion workers get union contracts. The neighborhood support will be the next thing coming...

Ray Dolby had a great way of using the "sick day / PTO" subject. He called them what they are "mental health days": you could take as many as you needed, just don't abuse it. Since he's passed away now, I doubt that the company is using this style anymore, but maybe they are.

If you ran a company - with your attitude - you'd be organized in a heartbeat.
 
our average student loan debt is $29,400. come on, man. don't pretend like there isn't a problem.

Average student loan debt: $29,400 - Dec. 4, 2013

we should strive for as educated of a population as possible. we all benefit immensely from that.

cool you want to pay for it? I don't. I have myself and my kids to pay for I don't have the money to pay for every kid that wants to go to college.
you talk as if money just grows on tree's and can be handed like candy. it doesn't.

if you want to go to college then you need to pay for it just as everyone else had to.
 
Going on strike and shutting a company down through neighborhood support and respect for the picket line is exactly how nonunion workers get union contracts. The neighborhood support will be the next thing coming...

It is also how you get fired and I hire your neighbors for the job you did.

Ray Dolby had a great way of using the "sick day / PTO" subject. He called them what they are "mental health days": you could take as many as you needed, just don't abuse it. Since he's passed away now, I doubt that the company is using this style anymore, but maybe they are.

If you ran a company - with your attitude - you'd be organized in a heartbeat.

not really. I am fair and just in my view. if I pay you to do a job I expect you to show up for that job.
if you call in sick to go protest and you are not sick then that is an fraudulent claim. you can be written up and or fired.

by calling in sick when you are not you cause way more trouble than what you are worth at that point.
it means that someone else has to come in and work over time. it means that someone else has to do YOUR work.

or it means that the people already on have to do double the work to make sure that what you are doing is getting done as well.
you have become a determent to operational proceedings.

all so you can be not sick.

I worked with guys like you. they call in sick when they weren't sick. I had to cover their shift on my days off etc ...
 
our average student loan debt is $29,400. come on, man. don't pretend like there isn't a problem.

Average student loan debt: $29,400 - Dec. 4, 2013

we should strive for as educated of a population as possible. we all benefit immensely from that.

That amount of debt is very similar to a typical new car loan, but is likely at a much lower inerest rate and for a longer term.

What is the Average Amount of a Car Loan - Car Loan Pal

Considering the average increase in earnings from that college degree it is still a good deal.

Increased earning income from bachelors, masters and doctoral (PhD) degrees
 
I like how the right-wing response to ****ty employers is always "just get a different job!"

One of the basic beliefs of conservatives is that people should look after themselves rather than being dependent on others. Such an attitutde about employment fits that belief well. Those like you who don't believe in personal responsibility wouldn't see that.
 
Going on strike and shutting a company down through neighborhood support and respect for the picket line is exactly how nonunion workers get union contracts. The neighborhood support will be the next thing coming...

Ray Dolby had a great way of using the "sick day / PTO" subject. He called them what they are "mental health days": you could take as many as you needed, just don't abuse it. Since he's passed away now, I doubt that the company is using this style anymore, but maybe they are.

If you ran a company - with your attitude - you'd be organized in a heartbeat.

You have to keep in mind that unions are in the decline, not the upswing. Your numbers are dwindling....just like the horse and buggy did.
 
cool you want to pay for it? I don't. I have myself and my kids to pay for I don't have the money to pay for every kid that wants to go to college.
you talk as if money just grows on tree's and can be handed like candy. it doesn't.

if you want to go to college then you need to pay for it just as everyone else had to.

you're already paying for it. make the investment at the beginning, and you won't have as many people on aid.
 
That amount of debt is very similar to a typical new car loan, but is likely at a much lower inerest rate and for a longer term.

What is the Average Amount of a Car Loan - Car Loan Pal

Considering the average increase in earnings from that college degree it is still a good deal.

Increased earning income from bachelors, masters and doctoral (PhD) degrees

kids will opt for the car, if they can even afford that.

you know it's madness to put a massive paywall between the student and his or her education or job training. and if you don't know it, you're just flat out wrong.
 
if you don't like the schedule you have the option of going somewhere else, however you will find that all retailers have the same types of schedules.
it is all based on peak/nonpeak hours. during the holiday it gets even worse.
Unless you're working at a Wal-Mart in small town America, in some economically repressed town where Wal-Mart is one of the few employers and are partially responsible for competitors closing up shop.
 
Unless you're working at a Wal-Mart in small town America, in some economically repressed town where Wal-Mart is one of the few employers and are partially responsible for competitors closing up shop.

Sometimes ya just gotta go where the jobs are.

I have yet to witness this "closing up shop", phenomenon libs are always harping about. Walmart's are usually located in areas where businesses are thriving. How do you account for that?
 
Life isn't that black and white. The average person can't just uproot their lives and just move.

I see. So in your world, "the average person" has to stay where they know there's no opportunity for them. Got it. That's an excellent plan.
 
I see. So in your world, "the average person" has to stay where they know there's no opportunity for them. Got it. That's an excellent plan.
Don't know what world you live in, However in the real world, most people can't up an move just like that. Single Mothers, Retirees, The average Joe who lives from check to check can't just sell their house and walk away from any responsibilities they have, family, whatever roots they've laid down. That might looks good in a TV sitcom, however real life? Nope.
 
Venture into the real world? I do just fine, thanks.

Anyway, it seems to have gone over your head that low-wage jobs exist no matter how hard people work. Your theory is complete horse****. If every single person in the country worked exactly the same amount, had the same IQ, and the same education, there would still be janitors and cashiers.

In the world of variables, they are a constant.

Of course low wage jobs exist. If there is a floor to sweep, or a nail to be driven, somebody has to do it.

The fact is everbody is not equal. The better of the lot will get the promotion.

What you miss is that nobody has to spend the rest of their lives driving the nail or sweeping the floor. Move up or out. Take your newfound skills and track record with you. Repeat.
 
There are plenty of lazy people at the top and hard workers at the bottom. The free market isn't magical.

True, if you are super lazy, there is a good chance you'll never make much money. However, the idea that just because you work hard, you'll get out poverty? That's complete bull****.

Just working hard is not enough. All that accomplishes is making you a better floor sweeper. Working smart is also necessary.
 
I'm sorry that I don't like the fact that our current society requires 25% of the workforce to be irrelevant and poor.

Where, exactly, is that requirement addressed?
 
Where, exactly, is that requirement addressed?

That's the number of low paying jobs currently in the work force. You can fire a manager. You can get rid of a VP. But you can't reduce the number of grunts because they are the ones actually doing the work.

Until they are all automated, they will always be there, and they will always require someone to work hard for chicken scratch.
 
Anybody and group has the right to strike. It's a constitutionally protected right under "redress of grievances".

YOU can run your company any way you want to. The fact remains however that you become a target for an organizing drive.

No it's not. The redress of grievances clause is part of the 1st amendment that adresses the right to petition the government vis a vis government issues.

Nothing whatever to do with contractual differences between employer and employee.
 
That's the number of low paying jobs currently in the work force. You can fire a manager. You can get rid of a VP. But you can't reduce the number of grunts because they are the ones actually doing the work.

Until they are all automated, they will always be there, and they will always require someone to work hard for chicken scratch.

And where exactly is that requirement addressed.

This sounds to me like an opinion atttempting to be a fact with zero supporting data.
 
Don't know what world you live in, However in the real world, most people can't up an move just like that. Single Mothers, Retirees, The average Joe who lives from check to check can't just sell their house and walk away from any responsibilities they have, family, whatever roots they've laid down. That might looks good in a TV sitcom, however real life? Nope.
What's the solution then?
 
And where exactly is that requirement addressed.

This sounds to me like an opinion atttempting to be a fact with zero supporting data.

What fact? The fact that 25% of the jobs are low-paying? Or the fact that they aren't going anywhere?

I'm not sure how to answer that or support it when it's blatantly obvious. Examples of low paying jobs:

Cashier
Wait Staff
Clerks
Manual Labor
Janitors

Are you saying these could turn into decent-wage jobs?
 
:roll::doh

Walmart should close those stores and leave town...

As an employer I retain the authority to dictate employee attire during work periods.

I am always amused when folks who pretend to live by a belief in freedom and liberty go out of their way to excuse the negatives of authoritarianism and find a way to justify it.
 
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