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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

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    It's interesting that you used the word dictate, tater Thom.
    In order to assure proper business operation that is the job of management. There are no committees for discussion. If management does not perform at any level it's gone. Note though, that as far a employees are concerned management must be benevolent; and most good management finds that balance.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    :yawn

    I can do it to:

    Unions are nothing but parasites, sucking the lifeblood from the unwilling backs of the worker, taking dues to support high leadership wages and political activity rather than actually work in the interests of their membership.



    Unions are better under RTW conditions because they have to perform. That's why they are so pervasive (for example) in Germany, which has a national RTW law, and also widespread unionization.
    it seems you do not have the same union animus towards the unionized employees of germany
    why is that?
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh wow a site ran by Walmart.
    So refute the claims. Walmart has every right to tell their side if the story, don't they?

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it seems you do not have the same union animus towards the unionized employees of germany
    why is that?
    I do not have an animus against American workers. I have an animus against a system which 1) forces unions on individuals and 2) gives unions little incentive to work for their interests. In Germany, unions have to produce direct benefit to the workers, because workers have the right not to be a member if they do not perceive that the juice is worth the squeeze. That is not an option for too many American workers. If we had a national RTW set up, as Germany does, then I suspect we would have better unions as well.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I do not have an animus against American workers. I have an animus against a system which 1) forces unions on individuals and 2) gives unions little incentive to work for their interests. In Germany, unions have to produce direct benefit to the workers, because workers have the right not to be a member if they do not perceive that the juice is worth the squeeze. That is not an option for too many American workers. If we had a national RTW set up, as Germany does, then I suspect we would have better unions as well.
    i believe you give right to work status too much credit
    it would seem that the right to work states are those having the least union participation
    and certainly when looking at germany's strong economy and strong unionization, unionization appears to be a positive aspect of that prosperity. something that is obviously diminished by right to work status
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i never argued that it relied on public assistance to pay minimum ****ing wage.
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    i want the nation's largest private employer to not rely on public assistance to supplement so many workers' incomes.
    It sure ***ing looks like you ***ing did. Now, if you want to ***ing shift ***ing fire now, and agree that - in fact - Wal Mart doesn't ****ing rely on public ***ing assistance, well, that's fine.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i believe you give right to work status too much credit
    it would seem that the right to work states are those having the least union participation
    And, given the poor state of American unions, that's not terribly surprising. When you have a captive base, you tend to lose responsiveness.

    and certainly when looking at germany's strong economy and strong unionization, unionization appears to be a positive aspect of that prosperity. something that is obviously diminished by right to work status
    Odd, then, that they seem to be enjoying a stronger economy, stronger unionization, WITH right to work status, huh? It's almost as if forcing unions to provide services in return for dues results in unions providing services that are worth dues....

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
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    It sure ***ing looks like you ***ing did. Now, if you want to ***ing shift ***ing fire now, and agree that - in fact - Wal Mart doesn't ****ing rely on public ***ing assistance, well, that's fine.
    they rely on food stamps and medicaid because a lot of their workers are broke. they guide their workers into these programs. that has nothing to do with supplementing the minimum wage. supplementing the minimum wage is what you do when you tip.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    they rely on food stamps and medicaid because a lot of their workers are broke.
    No, they don't. Wal-Mart does not rely upon their workers utilizing public assistance programs. There is zero dependence on those programs by Wal-Mart's HR department. If those programs were to cease overnight, Wal-Mart's wages would be completely unaffected.

    they guide their workers into these programs.
    If Wal-Mart provides that additional support to their workforce, then good for them. Is it better than if they didn't provide that education to their employees?




    You're probably going to reply "no they should pay them so much that they wouldn't need public assistance", and then I'm going to point out "if individual labor cost that much, then Wal-Mart couldn't afford to employ as many of them and they would instead be earning an income of nothing", and then I'm going to point out (again) that the reality is actually flipped from what you represent - that Wal-Mart is taking people who are on public assistance and offering them a way to work their way up and out of public assistance. That's a positive.



    that has nothing to do with supplementing the minimum wage. supplementing the minimum wage is what you do when you tip.
    :raises eyebrow: tipped jobs often do not make MW.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, they don't. Wal-Mart does not rely upon their workers utilizing public assistance programs. There is zero dependence on those programs by Wal-Mart's HR department. If those programs were to cease overnight, Wal-Mart's wages would be completely unaffected.



    If Wal-Mart provides that additional support to their workforce, then good for them. Is it better than if they didn't provide that education to their employees?




    You're probably going to reply "no they should pay them so much that they wouldn't need public assistance", and then I'm going to point out "if individual labor cost that much, then Wal-Mart couldn't afford to employ as many of them and they would instead be earning an income of nothing", and then I'm going to point out (again) that the reality is actually flipped from what you represent - that Wal-Mart is taking people who are on public assistance and offering them a way to work their way up and out of public assistance. That's a positive.





    :raises eyebrow: tipped jobs often do not make MW.
    believe whatever you like. live in whatever version of reality that you choose. shop at walmart, work at walmart, tithe ten percent of your income to walmart, and sleep in a tent in a walmart parking lot.

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