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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I see. So in your world, "the average person" has to stay where they know there's no opportunity for them. Got it. That's an excellent plan.
    Don't know what world you live in, However in the real world, most people can't up an move just like that. Single Mothers, Retirees, The average Joe who lives from check to check can't just sell their house and walk away from any responsibilities they have, family, whatever roots they've laid down. That might looks good in a TV sitcom, however real life? Nope.
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Venture into the real world? I do just fine, thanks.

    Anyway, it seems to have gone over your head that low-wage jobs exist no matter how hard people work. Your theory is complete horse****. If every single person in the country worked exactly the same amount, had the same IQ, and the same education, there would still be janitors and cashiers.

    In the world of variables, they are a constant.
    Of course low wage jobs exist. If there is a floor to sweep, or a nail to be driven, somebody has to do it.

    The fact is everbody is not equal. The better of the lot will get the promotion.

    What you miss is that nobody has to spend the rest of their lives driving the nail or sweeping the floor. Move up or out. Take your newfound skills and track record with you. Repeat.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    There are plenty of lazy people at the top and hard workers at the bottom. The free market isn't magical.

    True, if you are super lazy, there is a good chance you'll never make much money. However, the idea that just because you work hard, you'll get out poverty? That's complete bull****.
    Just working hard is not enough. All that accomplishes is making you a better floor sweeper. Working smart is also necessary.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I'm sorry that I don't like the fact that our current society requires 25% of the workforce to be irrelevant and poor.
    Where, exactly, is that requirement addressed?

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Where, exactly, is that requirement addressed?
    That's the number of low paying jobs currently in the work force. You can fire a manager. You can get rid of a VP. But you can't reduce the number of grunts because they are the ones actually doing the work.

    Until they are all automated, they will always be there, and they will always require someone to work hard for chicken scratch.
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Anybody and group has the right to strike. It's a constitutionally protected right under "redress of grievances".

    YOU can run your company any way you want to. The fact remains however that you become a target for an organizing drive.
    No it's not. The redress of grievances clause is part of the 1st amendment that adresses the right to petition the government vis a vis government issues.

    Nothing whatever to do with contractual differences between employer and employee.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's the number of low paying jobs currently in the work force. You can fire a manager. You can get rid of a VP. But you can't reduce the number of grunts because they are the ones actually doing the work.

    Until they are all automated, they will always be there, and they will always require someone to work hard for chicken scratch.
    And where exactly is that requirement addressed.

    This sounds to me like an opinion atttempting to be a fact with zero supporting data.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Don't know what world you live in, However in the real world, most people can't up an move just like that. Single Mothers, Retirees, The average Joe who lives from check to check can't just sell their house and walk away from any responsibilities they have, family, whatever roots they've laid down. That might looks good in a TV sitcom, however real life? Nope.
    What's the solution then?

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    And where exactly is that requirement addressed.

    This sounds to me like an opinion atttempting to be a fact with zero supporting data.
    What fact? The fact that 25% of the jobs are low-paying? Or the fact that they aren't going anywhere?

    I'm not sure how to answer that or support it when it's blatantly obvious. Examples of low paying jobs:

    Cashier
    Wait Staff
    Clerks
    Manual Labor
    Janitors

    Are you saying these could turn into decent-wage jobs?
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

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    Walmart should close those stores and leave town...

    As an employer I retain the authority to dictate employee attire during work periods.
    I am always amused when folks who pretend to live by a belief in freedom and liberty go out of their way to excuse the negatives of authoritarianism and find a way to justify it.
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