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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    more, apparently.

    come on, man. you know you'd rather have people working their way up the ladder than drawing public assistance. can we at least agree on that? if you have to pay a buck more for tide, isn't it worth it?
    How does making someone more comfortable in the rung they are on encourage them to work their way up the ladder?

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

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    How does making someone more comfortable in the rung they are on encourage them to work their way up the ladder?
    How does requiring ~25% of people to earn chicken scratch encourage this nation to work it's way up the ladder?

    The United States Leads in Low-Wage Work and the Lowest Wages for Low-Wage Workers | Economic Policy Institute
    In the United States, according to the OECD, 25.3 percent of workers had “low-pay”—earning less than two-thirds of the median wage—which was the highest incidence of low-pay work among the twenty-six countries surveyed and far higher than the OECD average of 16.3 percent.
    These jobs are non-negotiable. People may think they're easy, for idiots, and the people that work them are expendable, but if any job is going to exist in this country, it is these. The cashiers, waitresses, janitors, etc. So your idea that they can just "work their way up the ladder" is a fallacy, because our economy requires that they don't. We have to have uneducated, cheap and expendable labor.
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    How does making someone more comfortable in the rung they are on encourage them to work their way up the ladder?
    i didn't argue to increase the base pay. i argued for more opportunities for promotion and raises, as well as increased control over schedules so that the workers can enjoy more middle class benefits. this is why i think that the workers should organize.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    more, apparently.

    come on, man. you know you'd rather have people working their way up the ladder than drawing public assistance. can we at least agree on that? if you have to pay a buck more for tide, isn't it worth it?
    Ok then once again I ask, what % of the jobs at a walmart store should be some type of management level?

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    Ok then once again I ask, what % of the jobs at a walmart store should be some type of management level?
    and i answered you. there needs to be more opportunity to climb the ladder so that these workers aren't drawing public assistance. Walmart can still make a profit.

    you guys bitch constantly about "takers," i tell you how to solve the problem, and then you bitch about that, too. FFS, have a glass of egg nog, and be happy that you aren't doomed to a life of random retail work in which you don't even know what hours you're working next week.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i didn't argue to increase the base pay. i argued for more opportunities for promotion and raises, as well as increased control over schedules so that the workers can enjoy more middle class benefits. this is why i think that the workers should organize.
    So they should be required to have a caboose in every store and a person sitting in the caboose even though the caboose isn't needed but the union keeps the caboose in the store so the person who sits in the caboose has a job? Seems pretty economically wasteful to me.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    So they should be required to have a caboose in every store and a person sitting in the caboose even though the caboose isn't needed but the union keeps the caboose in the store so the person who sits in the caboose has a job? Seems pretty economically wasteful to me.
    no, they should encourage workers to work hard and be loyal, and reward them for that hard work via more promotions and raises. entry level jobs are always going to pay ****, but every company benefits from workers who are trying to climb the ladder. i mean, yeah, **** is cheap there, but make it a touch more expensive and help the workers to stay off of public assistance.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    How does requiring ~25% of people to earn chicken scratch encourage this nation to work it's way up the ladder?

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    These jobs are non-negotiable. People may think they're easy, for idiots, and the people that work them are expendable, but if any job is going to exist in this country, it is these. The cashiers, waitresses, janitors, etc. So your idea that they can just "work their way up the ladder" is a fallacy, because our economy requires that they don't. We have to have uneducated, cheap and expendable labor.
    Cashiers are already being replaced by self-checkout kiosks and McDonald's will be deploying 2,000 touch screen ordering kiosks in the very near future similar to what Sheetz uses in their stores' kitchens. Our economy does not require any of that you said--the corporate model does. Go to a mom and pop shop where mom or pop work the register, clean the floors, cooks the food, takes your order, drives the tractor, picks the lettuce if you so desire. You will create more jobs shunning multi-national businesses than by frequenting them.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Cashiers are already being replaced by self-checkout kiosks and McDonald's will be deploying 2,000 touch screen ordering kiosks in the very near future similar to what Sheetz uses in their stores' kitchens. Our economy does not require any of that you said--the corporate model does. Go to a mom and pop shop where mom or pop work the register, clean the floors, cooks the food, takes your order, drives the tractor, picks the lettuce if you so desire. You will create more jobs shunning multi-national businesses than by frequenting them.
    Agreed - sort of. I generally don't like when people bitch and then don't have a solution, but I guess I'm that guy today. I don't know the best way to fix our societies economic injustices, I just know it's ****ed up. I know when people say, "well they should have worked harder and they could have climbed the ladder", it's nonsense. Everyone can't work harder and climb the ladder - it's just not possible in our current economy. Someone has to stay behind and wait on people and clean up their ****.

    So while I can't say how to fix it, all I can say is at least treat these people with respect.
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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and i answered you. there needs to be more opportunity to climb the ladder so that these workers aren't drawing public assistance. Walmart can still make a profit.

    you guys bitch constantly about "takers," i tell you how to solve the problem, and then you bitch about that, too. FFS, have a glass of egg nog, and be happy that you aren't doomed to a life of random retail work in which you don't even know what hours you're working next week.
    You haven't answered me at all, what % of a stores jobs should be management type positions for there to be an adequate opportunity to climb the ladder?

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