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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't think Walmart is trash. i just don't like that so many are relegated to working and shopping there, and i'd like for their employees to have better working conditions.
    This goes far beyond Walmart.
    Look to state and federal government for that.
    Just upping the min. wage won't resolve the issue, either.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    This goes far beyond Walmart.
    Look to state and federal government for that.
    Just upping the min. wage won't resolve the issue, either.
    i don't support addressing the issue via minimum wage, except for servers. i'm not tipping to supplement minimum wage; i'm tipping to give the server something extra.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Shutting down a store, or any business during an organizing drive is illegal.
    Apparently there are ways. Companies including Walmart have closed stores in conjunction with employee situations. Huffpo at least caims this happens:

    Walmart's War Against Unions -- and the U.S. Laws That Make It Possible*|*Julie Gutman Dickinson

    Walmart has a superior legal staff. If there is a way, they will find it. The unions have superior legal staffs, including in many cases the backing of NLRB and DOJ. If there is a way, they will try to stop it.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    of course it's my business. i pay taxes that fund public assistance.

    either way, it doesn't matter. treat your workers badly enough for long enough, and they will unionize.
    Then the solution is to tell your representatives to stop paying subsidies to workers.

    You arguing against yourself. On the one hand you state that businesses using low skilled labor are not paying their employees enough to live on, then you arguing that we must enable them to do so by subsidising the wages of those workers.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you realize that you are paying for public assistance for their employees via taxes, right?

    look, i'm not arguing that we should seize and liquidate the ****ing chain. just raise prices a little bit, leave the base salary where it is, and give people more opportunities for promotion and raises. i don't see how that could even be slightly controversial.
    Thankfully, it's not up to you tell others how to run their business. . Should we add price controls to all businesses that may have employees on assistance? How is that Walmart's fault?

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    not even willing to give an inch? come on, man. we're all workers here. our kids will be workers. i don't want them working in a labor market in which they are treated like toilet paper. increased job security, a regular shift, and upward mobility is not too much to ask.
    And who exactly guarantees this, and how? Please be specific.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Then the solution is to tell your representatives to stop paying subsidies to workers.

    You arguing against yourself. On the one hand you state that businesses using low skilled labor are not paying their employees enough to live on, then you arguing that we must enable them to do so by subsidising the wages of those workers.
    dude, we're a first world country. we aren't going to let people die of poverty or for lack of health care, nor should we. crime would absolutely skyrocket. i'm willing to entertain a lot of ideas, but not this 1950s absolutist bootstrap bull**** when the labor market is completely different now.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    of course it's my business. i pay taxes that fund public assistance.
    Actually, it's absolutely none of your business. If you want the government to stop fleecing you for public assistance, take it up with them.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    And who exactly guarantees this, and how? Please be specific.
    labor organizes and negotiates for it. if management doesn't want labor organizing, it can prevent that from happening with minimal concessions.

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    Re: Walmart Threatened Workers For Trying To Organize, Judge Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Actually, it's absolutely none of your business. If you want the government to stop fleecing you for public assistance, take it up with them.
    i'm fine with social safety nets.

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