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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    ..and the USA managed to survive many wars and conflicts for over 200 years without needing legalized torture.
    Not everyone was a bed wetter then. I am pretty sure we have really tortured people in past wars. These days we just disorient them, make them uncomfortable, and ask them politely to cooperate.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why? I already know it is uncomfortable. All of the secrets I know have aged. There is not much point in making me uncomfortable to discover them. The most important were revealed by Democrat presidents.
    You know it in the abstract.

    Be a tough guy and experience it for yourself, then you can be a real expert on it.

    Or, just be a Hannity chickenhawk.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Meh, I thought liberals rejected the notion of "American exceptionalism" as a myth born of arrogance anyway and that we're no better, and in fact worse, than any other nation out there.
    Yet another strawman argument of what liberals actually believe. You honestly think that liberals believe the U.S. is not better, and in fact worse, than, say, Uganda or Iran?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Not everyone was a bed wetter then. I am pretty sure we have really tortured people in past wars. These days we just disorient them, make them uncomfortable, and ask them politely to cooperate.
    Feeling like you're drowning is a bit more serious than feeling uncomfortable. Feeling uncomfortable is like when you were a teenager and your parents started talking to you about sex. That **** was uncomfortable, but feeling like you're drowning is another league all together.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    You know it in the abstract.

    Be a tough guy and experience it for yourself, then you can be a real expert on it.

    Or, just be a Hannity chickenhawk.
    I will let you wander around in confusion by yourself. I don't have any interest in going with you.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Be a big strong man, and let someone waterboard you.

    Christopher Hitchins did...and he challenged Sean Hannity to, and Hannity said he would. That was about 4 years ago...still hasn't done it yet...but he sure blathers on about it like a big strong man...
    The Christopher Hitchens Challenge outlived Christopher Hitchens.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Lovely. Didn't take long for a few of you long to suck this thread down to slime level low.










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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Feeling you're drowning is a bit more serious than feeling uncomfortable. Feeling uncomfortable is like when you were a teenager and your parents started talking to you about sex. That **** was uncomfortable, but feeling like you're drowning is another league all together.
    Okay. Real uncomfortable. Happy?

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech
    he's one of my least favorite US politicians of recent memory. one of the few good things about Obama is that McCain didn't win and sign us up for an even greater expansion of the endless war. however, he's right in this case. have to give credit where credit is due.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Okay. Real uncomfortable. Happy?
    The difference between your body literally feeling like it's going to die and feeling uncomfortable is pretty large. I can't really believe you don't understand that.

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