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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Honorable? He ordered the CIA to spy on the Quakers, for Christ sake.
    Well, everybody knows you can't trust those damned Quakers. We should have kidnapped a few of them and waterboarded them to find out what they were up to. It would have been the 'honorable' thing to do. After all, what's more honorable than torturing people?
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yes, I agree - that's just you.
    No, actually there are a lot of people who share that opinion.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    His high was recorded 10 days after 9-11, hardly reflection on his actions post 9-11.

    Bush's term ended in January of 2009, by 10-2008 his approval hit 25%, culminating the greatest DECLINE of approval of any POTUS recorded by Gallup.

    I know there are LOTS of really stupid conservatives....and generally stupidity and conservatism goes hand in hand.
    Thank you for your useless piece of unrelated and irrelevant information and your gratuitous, totally typical, personal garbage.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, actually there are a lot of people who share that opinion.
    Well, I haven't seen any disclaimers of the Gruber theory of the American voter, so I'll have to accept your claim as valid.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm sure it was. Actually considering that the FBI kept a file on John Lennon would tell me that we know it was.

    Sure is a lot easier when you've got somebody at the top who has media support and who just doesn't care what anyone thinks.

    Obama renews NSA snooping for 90 more days - Washington Times

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Another specious claim but the argument being made proves my point. The Library Tower plot was successfully foiled in 2002 as acknowledged in your own source. Where it derails into the realm of fantasy is its devolution into assertions that the facts don't count because someone floated a theory that others MIGHT have tried it at some undisclosed point in the future even though no such plot actually existed.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The damage was done by a treasonous democrat. People who object have given this very little serious thought. Or they are bedwetters.
    No, the bedwetters were the treasonous lot that had so little faith in America and American justice that they over-reacted to 9/11 by surrendering basic rights and basic dignity that characterized America in favor of "anything goes" (like torture). The faith of these people was so shallow that they were willing to sacrifice freedoms so they would not die..... they would laud the Marines for dying for our freedoms; but these cowards were quick to give back the freedoms so they would not die....

    These people walked away from everything America stood for because they had an irrational fear of being killed by an Arab boogeyman. Rather than deal with things rationally, they chose hysteria, supporting absurd and ugly things (by 20th century American standards) the supported things like Gitmo, torture, the Patroit Act. They did so because they were cowards, they were bedwetters, and, because they were so willing to sacrifice our Constitution for such a paltry price, they were a treasonous lot.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Thank you for your useless piece of unrelated and irrelevant information and your gratuitous, totally typical, personal garbage.
    Unrelated? It totally skewered your contention that the majority feel Bush acted honorably post 9-11, especially as we learn further just how horrible his administrations were. This report is NOT going to increase his standing with the American public.....or most Canucks....of course your mileage will vary.....a lot....but then that is the point.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Unrelated? It totally skewered your contention that the majority feel Bush acted honorably post 9-11, especially as we learn further just how horrible his administrations were. This report is NOT going to increase his standing with the American public.....or most Canucks....of course your mileage will vary.....a lot....but then that is the point.
    If you think anyone other than the typical Democrat hack and Gruber voters you rely upon is going to give credence to the Senate Democrat report, you're nuts.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Is there really a "right" way to conduct war? Should we ever even enter a war without the intent to win it outright? It's a little scary to me that if events occurred now similar to the 30s and 40s, we would not have anyone with the intestinal fortitude or resolve to actually end the war and if war is actually brought to our soil? Well God help us then if we're not permitted to do anything necessary to repel that.
    The GWOT is meant to be waged, not won. Anyone with minimal understanding of terms knows that. One cannot defeat a tactic.

    The GWOT is meant to be waged so that $ can be made. Gold is the reason for the wars we wage. War is a racket. GWOT is a hoax, brought under fraud and deception.

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