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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

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    How exactly is who he is in any way supposed to make his imaginary scenario any more relevant to the real world?
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

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    There is no problem, except in your imaginary, nonreal world scenario. In the real world, that set of situation cannot exist, so trying to use it to discuss morality in the real world is stupid.
    More evasion.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You are evading.
    No, actually I am not. You are being hypothetical.

    How many of the people tortured by the CIA had secret codes to bombs placed in New York City set to explode in 30 minutes?










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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but that's how Dershowitz wrote it. Any attempt to avoid the dilemma is a declaration of failure.
    No, pointing out it's flaws is not a declaration of failure. That is just stupid...
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

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    I don't think it compels confrontation. If the U.S. wanted to engage in moral relativism then it should have thought of that before crowning itself king of the "free world" and declaring itself as the example to which all other nations should aspire.
    Interesting but irrelevant and, again, an evasion.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    More evasion.
    Ah, we are back into your Bizarro world, where addressing your posts is evading.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How exactly is who he is in any way supposed to make his imaginary scenario any more relevant to the real world?
    Because Charles Barkley said it was a good idea?
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Because Charles Bartley said it was a good idea?
    The basketball player?
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    No, actually I am not. You are being hypothetical.

    How many of the people tortured by the CIA had secret codes to bombs placed in New York City set to explode in 30 minutes?
    That doesn't matter in the slightest.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Interesting but irrelevant and, again, an evasion.
    Its not an evasion. You said the point of the imaginary scenario was to compel confrontation. Meaning you want people who otherwise oppose torture to question that value if torturing someone were guaranteed to save lives. I don't for the reason I specified in my last post. Obviously the imaginary problem doesn't yield the result you were hoping for.

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