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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yet the report that came out today states that despite all of the torture committed under the Bush Administration, not one single useful piece of intel was had. Sure a shame after all of that hard work, eh?
    That goes into the classification of liberals in the Senate hoping that if they repeat a lie enough times, it will be perceived as the truth. Leon Panetta who spend time heading the CIA under Obama and was part of the Clinton administration has stated more then once that the lead that the lead that led to finding Osama Bin Laden came from enhanced interrogations.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The British lost the war and America because the colonials conducted war in a manner unheard of by traditional armies and soldiers. Are you going to hold all to the historical conduct of war?
    Quote Originally Posted by George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775
    Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.”
    Yeah, ol' Georgie wasn't down for torture either.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do you believe George Washington was treasonous when he said:
    As a side question, what does Feinstein giving aid and comfort to our enemies in wartime have to do with establishing policy?

    Do you believe Washington's words kept the infantryman from occasionally clubbing a wounded enemy or giving him just one more jab with his bayonet?

    Do you believe Washington's policy, in enemy hands would cause them to attack Americans with greater fury?

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    My point about collateral damage and drones is related specifically to the use of drones outside of the battlefield. America is not at war in Yemen, in Pakistan, in Somalia, in Iraq, etc. and yet drones are used in those theaters frequently, often with disastrous results for people who are totally innocent and not enemies of America. I fully support the use of drones in war zones.
    Drones are a way to make assassination legal. In the old days one would send in a sniper, today we fly drones overhead.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yet the report that came out today states that despite all of the torture committed under the Bush Administration, not one single useful piece of intel was had. Sure a shame after all of that hard work, eh?
    On that score the report is false. The CIA's public rebuttal deconstructs that falsehood in some detail.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Terrorists who hide among civilians bring the war with them. The US is at war wherever terrorists hide, and we do not grant them sanctuary anywhere.
    Good evening 2M - and yet, I'm not aware of any drone attacks on American or Canadian or British soil and several terrorists have been located in these places.

    I should qualify my comments, however, to be opposed to the use of drones in countries America is not at war with without the specific consent of that country. I believe Yemen has provided that consent on occasion.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yeah, ol' Georgie wasn't down for torture either.
    Do you believe this was about intelligence gathering? Did Washington tell his soldiers "Don't make your prisoners uncomfortable"?

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Here is something very interesting CJ:

    Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture

    Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture | FiveThirtyEight
    Greetings, Pero.

    The noticeable growing change in sentiment about torture among Americans polled probably directly correlates with the savagery displayed by the terrorists themselves. I would guess that if a poll were taken today, after watching them behead people who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, it would be a large majority of Americans who would agree that torture is not always wrong. Just my opinion...

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Well then, I'd say it did the opposite. And you think it unfair that Americans are more hated than ever?
    We are hated so much that we are still the number one destination for immigrants....legal and illegal. Go figure! However personally, I do not lose any sleep at night worrying about whether or not people from other nations like us or not. They either like us or they do not. I am okay either way.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That goes into the classification of liberals in the Senate hoping that if they repeat a lie enough times, it will be perceived as the truth. Leon Panetta who spend time heading the CIA under Obama and was part of the Clinton administration has stated more then once that the lead that the lead that led to finding Osama Bin Laden came from enhanced interrogations.
    That does work. Just saying them one time is sufficient for many who post here.

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