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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I do not find it surprising that you are unable to distinguish between enemy terrorists and US citizen gun owners. No doubt both are the same in your mind.
    What is the difference?

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

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    War is external. Revolution is internal. I am happy to hold your hand as an additional service at no additional charge.
    Civil war is war, Revolution is war, war in defense of your nation is war, attacking another country is war. It's all war.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually, he does, being a POW for several years. I may not agree with him on everything but he's sure earned the right to be heard.

    (I'm one of the few people that actually likes John McCain)
    Same, as much as I often disagree with him. He's as close to an honest player as you get at that level.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sorry, it's a rough world, sometimes you gotta do rough things and our torture is extremely, meant to give the impression that we're capable of so much more without causing any lasting damage or even any real physical harm.

    No lasting damage?

    And of course you are perfectly OK with the idea that two administrations in a row have been lying but you have no fear that mistakes are made, that innocent people are not harmed.

    Ever heard of "renditioning?" Maybe some research is in order before so cavalierly dismissing all torture by the CIA and have a look at a character named Mahar Arar.....
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually, he does, being a POW for several years. I may not agree with him on everything but he's sure earned the right to be heard.

    (I'm one of the few people that actually likes John McCain)
    He did not commit treason today as Feinstein did. But he hugged her and gave her a sloppy kiss.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    I think that if you are someone who is loudly and proudly for torture then they step up and walk the talk.

    Several journalists did the waterboarding, changed their opinions. Hannity....as usual, all talk and no balls.
    Fine, I'll stick my face in the water tomorrow when I'm shaving.

    I'm never gonna have an abortion...not my call, and not gonna let you thread drift.
    Great. Can I assume you'll keep your opinions to yourself regarding cops and anything military or shoot, gun control? Afterall, if you haven't been shot, you should get no say.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Civil war is war, Revolution is war, war in defense of your nation is war, attacking another country is war. It's all war.
    Revolution is internal. War is external. Next time there will be a charge. :-)

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Here is something very interesting CJ:

    Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture

    Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture | FiveThirtyEight
    Good evening Pero - thanks for sharing that. I'm not surprised because I believe people's views of what is happening in the world today and what needs to be done to counter it are ever changing. It also doesn't surprise me because of the support Americans have had for the use of drones and the seemingly unaffected view many have of the innocents who die as "collateral damage" by such attacks. These days, the bottom line outcome is more important because failure can lead to unthinkable consequences.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I stopped voting Republican when Bush led us to a war in Iraq based on lies. Since then, I have voted only for Libertarians..... Except for one time. That was in 2008, when I voted for John McCain, who IMHO, is willing to put party politics aside and call a spade a spade.

    This video, of McCain's speech, made on the Senate floor today, is a must watch, for John McCain, in his harsh criticism of his own party, represents the conscience of America, and is a Republican I would vote for again. There should be no Republicans or Democrats, but Americans who stand for American ideals, and torture is certainly not one of them.

    Give 'em hell, John.

    I supported McCain in 2000 and voted for him in 2008, but he's wrong about this.
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    Re: John McCain CIA Torture Report Senate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Revolution is internal. War is external. Next time there will be a charge. :-)
    Where are you getting this stuff?

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