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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    You've GOT to be joking. On this forum it is generally LIBERALS who have supported Putin's Nationalism and expansionism. Most conservatives have suggested instead kicking Putin's ass.

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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The god you believe in isn't real, so who gives a **** what the Bible says? The Bible shouldn't have an impact on our morals or values.
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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    With all of Obama's foreign policies failures, Obama will be spending the next two years playing 52 card pickup.
    APACHERAT, How's the ruble doing? How is Russia's economy doing lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos are this desperate.
    Yes, that is becoming especially obvious in the past month or so.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I didn't ignore it, in fact I've said given data homosexuals and others can raise children just fine. However, due to spiritual truths it's not the best compared to a one man one woman relationship with God as the head
    And I've already explained to you that subjective standards for what constitute best don't matter. What matters is quantifiable and qualitative data. As such, children raised in the homes of gays show no difference and as a matter of fact have been proven to benefit from their upbringing. So no, your position that "christians heterosexual homes are best" are proven by two facts A) data showing otherwise and B) your lack of studies demonstrating otherwise. Please show us your Family Research Council studies so we can laugh a little?

    I don't know how I can be any more clear on that. But you can continue to ignore spiritual truths, call things nonsense that you either don't understand or refuse to attempt to understand. And people can be pro-life, the whole position is that the unborn have a right to life, it's a stance that human life should be protected and not killed electively. Saying "pro-choice" and "anti-choice" is fundamentally ignorant of the pro-life position and a common close minded rhetoric trick many use to delegitimize a position, similar to saying pro-choice people are "anti-life" or "baby killers."
    More doublespeak? I've explained to you. No such thing as a pro-life position anymore than there is a pro-abortion position.
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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    The second people start talking about "God's plan," I head for the hills. "God's plan" sounds pretty lousy from the things that have been done as part of said "plan" for the last few thousand years of human history.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    With all of Obama's foreign policies failures, Obama will be spending the next two years playing 52 card pickup.
    Perhaps he should get him a vehicle like this one, then.

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    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And I've already explained to you that subjective standards for what constitute best don't matter. What matters is quantifiable and qualitative data. As such, children raised in the homes of gays show no difference and as a matter of fact have been proven to benefit from their upbringing.
    Yes, it does matter and that should be taken into consideration. I've not once said homosexuals or anyone else shouldn't be allowed to adopt or have kids. What I am saying though is the non-subjective, absolute standard that the best home environment is one that follows God's plan for marriage and family is superior to that of others due to a proper spiritual aspect. Being pro-family in the strictest sense of the definition would be pushing for such things. I don't know how I can make that any more clear. You can change laws, but you don't get to change the absolute truths of what God says, that's beyond human authority or judgement.

    More doublespeak? I've explained to you. No such thing as a pro-life position anymore than there is a pro-abortion position.
    Seems like you're not getting the concept. Pro-life = the unborn have human rights, the opposition to abortion is on the premise that the unborn have a right to life. Call it doublespeak or try to puff up your own argument with whatever adjectives or attacks you want, but intellectually at the end of the day the pro-life position is based on life and not this concept of "anti-choice." If you want to go down that route one could claim being pro-choice is "anti-life" in the sense that it advocates for the right to kill human life on a whim
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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Because buzzfeed is a reliable and unbiased source...

    What ultimately matters is the message, and the pro-family message of one man one woman raising children together in a loving home beats all others.
    Yep, we all love that Scott Desjarlais family value stuff: One man, one woman, one mistress, one ex-wife and couple of abortions... you know, the essentials for a happy, well adjusted family. Oh yes, I forgot the picket fence.

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    I am all for family values: I actually practice them (married to one woman for 30 years, no affairs, two kids). But, aside from the statement, I don't otherwise go about bragging on it, nor run for office trying to sell myself as some type of holier than though puritan. I think "family values" are important, but if your going to advocate them, then live by them (and call others out when they brag on it and do live it). Stop with this obvious hypocrisy, Republicans. Just ask:

    David Vetter
    Vance McAllister
    Mark Sanford
    Newt Gingrich
    Herman Cain
    Ted Haggerty

    .... off the top of my head

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    Re: Emails Show “Pro-Family” Activists Feeding Contacts To Russian Nationalists

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, it does matter and that should be taken into consideration.
    No. It doesn't. Religious upbringing has never been taken into consideration for whether children perform well or not. That you're still trying to claim it without a single study backing you up is downright silly.

    I've not once said homosexuals or anyone else shouldn't be allowed to adopt or have kids.
    Relying on fictional strawmen arguments nobody has made? Ballsy, but see through.

    What I am saying though is the non-subjective, absolute standard that the best home environment is one that follows God's plan for marriage and family is superior to that of others due to a proper spiritual aspect. Being pro-family in the strictest sense of the definition would be pushing for such things. I don't know how I can make that any more clear. You can change laws, but you don't get to change the absolute truths of what God says, that's beyond human authority or judgement.
    You can keep repeating this lie as much as you want. Your belief that children are raised better in a Christian heterosexual home is just that. Your belief. It's not an objective (that's the word you're looking for) observation that is up for scrutiny. It's your opinion and it is contrary to the facts demonstrating otherwise.

    Seems like you're not getting the concept. Pro-life = the unborn have human rights, the opposition to abortion is on the premise that the unborn have a right to life. Call it doublespeak or try to puff up your own argument with whatever adjectives or attacks you want, but intellectually at the end of the day the pro-life position is based on life and not this concept of "anti-choice." If you want to go down that route one could claim being pro-choice is "anti-life" in the sense that it advocates for the right to kill human life on a whim
    Still trying to emotionally charge the issue? Pro-life doesn't exist. Your human rights don't get to infringe on mine, neither can they be determined to be more important than mine. Rights don't work that way and yet that's how fundies want to dishonestly present it. Did you forget that's the reason you disappear from threads when you engage in this silly practice of looking at the human rights you do and don't like? Remember reproductive rights are a human right and they precedence long before those of a cluster of cells.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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