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Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

Someone clearly doesn't know how policing works....

Patrol Cops aren't the ones who arrest CEOs for Fraud. Those are detectives. Patrol dudes bust yo ass for slingin' dope on the corner, speeding tickets, DWIs, and all that commonplace ****.

That is how it works.
They could though if a crime is committed in their jurisdiction. They have the power.

Someone doesn't understand how crooked pigs are.
 
First of all the founders where corrupt men that put in place a system that suppresses the masses. They had no intention of helping the vast majority of Americans, their intention was to help themselves and stop the populist revolution they saw coming. They did a damn good job. The only exception is Benjamin rush. He was good.
Revisionist propaganda fun fun.

Their are plenty of Americans that trust the government depending in who is in office. It's a silly notion, but that's how allot of people think. If their guy is in office they trust it...
I havent actually met any of these people though. Perhaps you are surrounding yourself with idiots?

No I certainly did not, their are much MUCH more. Socialism is the answer and will happen like it or not...
Like it or not huh? That is a convincing message you are sending there.

No again I don't have goggles. The Russians where stalinists and on a large scale socialism has never really existed. Communism can't exist with a government. They are mutually exclusive terms.
Did I mention Russians or Stalinists? Nope I did not.

You are brainwashed by free market crap that will always end in oligarchy as it has in america now... Whoever said "lazze fair" should have been shot on the spot...

Those founders that you hate so much didnt want completely free markets either.
 
Revisionist propaganda fun fun.

I havent actually met any of these people though. Perhaps you are surrounding yourself with idiots?

Like it or not huh? That is a convincing message you are sending there.

Did I mention Russians or Stalinists? Nope I did not.



Those founders that you hate so much didnt want completely free markets either.

Actually its pretty well documented in a peoples history of the united states by Howard Zinn. Why do you think they had to put down so many rebellions after the war? Or why they left slavery/misogyny intact? Or why Washington got the land he was due in the American Indian war, but gave it to no one else? Or why in the federalist papers it says:
Happy will it be if our choice should be directed by a judicious estimate of our true interests, unperplexed and unbiased by considerations not connected with the public good.

Notice how Hamilton says it would be good if their decisions where in their own interests and not for the common good?

Theirs other examples, but I'm afraid no matter what evidence your confronted with you will deny it.

Benjamin rush was good. He was a abolisionist. He believed in universal healthcare and education, he was a teacher. The rest where greedy men trying to protect and further what they had.

No they wanted a market they could control and manipulate to their own ends.

Do I care what you mentioned? Nope I do not...

And yes like it or not their will be class war in the coming decades if current trends continue. For better or worse. It will be good if socialist, and bad if libertarian, but it could be that both unite and fight together with the understanding that different states with different rules will be made in the end.
 
I would call that moving the goal posts - speaking from the "perspective" of the outsider and student of history, the "War on Drugs" is a dismal failure.

Its not moving goalposts..... Police have to do what they can, with what they can. If rounding up drug dealers in the hood prevents someone from getting shot on that particular night before they are in jail for the night, then its a win.

To claim stating these facts (because thats what they are) is "moving goalposts" is just absurd. The goalpost was never legalization of drugs to begin with.
 
No the easiest way would be to legalize drugs and address the systemic problems and inadequacy's of america.

You obviously have american brainwashing as well. I do not have "hood" brainwashing as you so comically claimed...

What are these "systemic problems and inadquacy's of America?

Please, be specific.
 
The police perspective is screw the people we want money.

They lobby for prohibition they could stop that...

Their are a few police that are for legalizing all drugs, their called leap, and most of it's members are no longer pigs because of their opinions...
Im aware of Leap... I am a member (and no longer a Police Officer).

However, it doesn't change the fact that you got to stop slinging fingers at Drugs Laws as the problem to blame for everything.
 
They could though if a crime is committed in their jurisdiction. They have the power.

Someone doesn't understand how crooked pigs are.

Yes, because a patrol officer is going to get away with not answering calls for service, and manage to investigate a Fraud case that takes months in order to waltz up into a corporate office building and take down a CEO.

You sir, don't know a damned thing about police work. Please STFU about police work if you are this ignorant.
 
Actually its pretty well documented in a peoples history of the united states by Howard Zinn. Why do you think they had to put down so many rebellions after the war? Or why they left slavery/misogyny intact? Or why Washington got the land he was due in the American Indian war, but gave it to no one else? Or why in the federalist papers it says:

Notice how Hamilton says it would be good if their decisions where in their own interests and not for the common good?

Theirs other examples, but I'm afraid no matter what evidence your confronted with you will deny it.

Benjamin rush was good. He was a abolisionist. He believed in universal healthcare and education, he was a teacher. The rest where greedy men trying to protect and further what they had.

No they wanted a market they could control and manipulate to their own ends.

Do I care what you mentioned? Nope I do not...

And yes like it or not their will be class war in the coming decades if current trends continue. For better or worse. It will be good if socialist, and bad if libertarian, but it could be that both unite and fight together with the understanding that different states with different rules will be made in the end.

Howard Zinn seriously? The peoples history of the united states is a Manichean fable. A big pile of bull****.

And of course you dont care what I actually say, you are only concerned with getting the propaganda out there.
 
Howard Zinn seriously? The peoples history of the united states is a Manichean fable. A big pile of bull****.

And of course you dont care what I actually say, you are only concerned with getting the propaganda out there.

Though there are parts of Zinn's history that have problems, there are other sections that are well documented as you might find if you were to take the time to read the book. Attacking a text simply because you have been told it is worthless does not support your position.
 
Though there are parts of Zinn's history that have problems, there are other sections that are well documented as you might find if you were to take the time to read the book. Attacking a text simply because you have been told it is worthless does not support your position.

Been told by who? My source: » Explore by Theme Zinn Education Project

Oh and thanx for confirming that the book is nothing more than half truths.
 
Howard Zinn seriously? The peoples history of the united states is a Manichean fable. A big pile of bull****.

And of course you dont care what I actually say, you are only concerned with getting the propaganda out there.
Yea propaganda right... That would be what you have spewed here...

If its a pile of bull, why does every american history class worth a damn make you read it?

Oh wait I guess you know better than thousands of college professors...
 
Yes, because a patrol officer is going to get away with not answering calls for service, and manage to investigate a Fraud case that takes months in order to waltz up into a corporate office building and take down a CEO.

You sir, don't know a damned thing about police work. Please STFU about police work if you are this ignorant.
Actually the evidence is out in the open. The just need to make the arrest. It would take hours.

Haha "police work" what a oxymoron!

Are you a pig?
 
Though there are parts of Zinn's history that have problems, there are other sections that are well documented as you might find if you were to take the time to read the book. Attacking a text simply because you have been told it is worthless does not support your position.
Not really most of it is quite accurate when compared to other sources, just from a different perspective...
 
Its not moving goalposts..... Police have to do what they can, with what they can. If rounding up drug dealers in the hood prevents someone from getting shot on that particular night before they are in jail for the night, then its a win.

To claim stating these facts (because thats what they are) is "moving goalposts" is just absurd. The goalpost was never legalization of drugs to begin with.
It doesn't. In fact it ends in someone getting shot because someone probably ratted.

Do study up before you speak?
 
What are these "systemic problems and inadquacy's of America?

Please, be specific.
No universal anything, capitalism, the amount of poor, the amount in prison, the food system as a whole, what where doing to the environment, the differences in inner city and suburban schools, the wealth gap,

Really most of this amounts to problems with capitalism.
 
Im aware of Leap... I am a member (and no longer a Police Officer).

However, it doesn't change the fact that you got to stop slinging fingers at Drugs Laws as the problem to blame for everything.
Sureeeeeeeeeeee

Frankly I don't believe you. I don't blame drug laws for everything, I do blame them for allot of the problems with prisoner populations and so on, as does leap.

And pigs need to pay for what they have done, their part in lobbying, and their abuse of power. Some should be jailed, all should pay reparations out of pocket and do community service..

Pigs have stolen billions of dollars of property from non violent drug offenders over the years, for this they must pay.

Not to mention massive civil rights violations, like this thread...

Yummmmmm bacon go crunch...
 
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Yes, because a patrol officer is going to get away with not answering calls for service, and manage to investigate a Fraud case that takes months in order to waltz up into a corporate office building and take down a CEO.

You sir, don't know a damned thing about police work.
Please STFU about police work if you are this ignorant.

You're asking too much of that one.
 
No universal anything, capitalism, the amount of poor, the amount in prison, the food system as a whole, what where doing to the environment, the differences in inner city and suburban schools, the wealth gap,

Really most of this amounts to problems with capitalism.

So when you say no universal anything, you mean no handouts. When you mention the amount of poor, your only pointing out a cultural lack of desire to suceed. When you are pointing out the amount of prison, you are pointing out Cultural failures in how to adapt to the rules of civilized society. I have no clue WTF you mean by "The food system"... one either grows their own food or they buy it... do you expect that to be handed to you as well? If inner cities want quality teachers, they will treat them with respect. No teacher deserves to be threatened by worthless piece of **** thugs. The wealth gap..... That one is a little deeper than I have time for.
 
It doesn't. In fact it ends in someone getting shot because someone probably ratted.

Do study up before you speak?

Having been a police officer for 7 years.... I think I know a vast amount more than your ignoramus assumptions on the matter...

LOL.... That one about the evidence being right in the open is hilarious.... You don't know a ****ing thing about what constitutes evidence in a court case.
 
Sureeeeeeeeeeee

Frankly I don't believe you. I don't blame drug laws for everything, I do blame them for allot of the problems with prisoner populations and so on, as does leap.

And pigs need to pay for what they have done, their part in lobbying, and their abuse of power. Some should be jailed, all should pay reparations out of pocket and do community service..

Pigs have stolen billions of dollars of property from non violent drug offenders over the years, for this they must pay.

Not to mention massive civil rights violations, like this thread...

Yummmmmm bacon go crunch...

I think you are a "non-violent" drug offender, which is why you can't say "police officer", and you spew such ignorant ****ing hatred.

Reading a few brainwashing propaganda pieces from some socialist does not make you an expert on life bro.
 
And pigs need to pay for what they have done, their part in lobbying, and their abuse of power. Some should be jailed, all should pay reparations out of pocket and do community service..

hahaha
 
So Daniel Pantaleo goes free after applying a choke hold that results in a man's death while Mr. Orta does two years for a firearms charge? OK. In that video I didn't hear them read Eric Garner his rights. Did you folks hear it? Not that it matters. Seems like the NYPD do things their way.
Typically, rights are not read until the suspect is in custody. Thats the part that comes after the cuffing. But seriously...I think dood knew his 'rights'. After 30 previous arrests he could probably have cited them backwards, frontwards, and in Latin.
 
Typically, rights are not read until the suspect is in custody. Thats the part that comes after the cuffing. But seriously...I think dood knew his 'rights'. After 30 previous arrests he could probably have cited them backwards, frontwards, and in Latin.
Actually rights are not read in cases like this. They only have to read them if they want to question you and use it in court, and even still they usually just lie and say they did. I know allot of people this has happened to.

In this case they got him red handed. Their is no reason to question him, so they would not have read them.
 
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