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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya CM I think the cop should have been hooked up for excessive force. But if the jury is going by that Garner was resisting. I would have to agree that he was.

    But now I wonder, if any other witnesses were being harassed by NYPD other than this guy and his family.
    Resisting what? Dying?

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    The police clairvoyant detectives expected the Garner incident several years back, and so they began a pattern of arrests with the ultimate goal to discredit the man several years after he began. That....or...well...I suppose the guy could just be a scumbag petty criminal.

    "Orta, 22, is no stranger to trouble, sources said. He has been arrested 27 times since 2009 for offenses ranging from fare evasion and pot possession to a robbery in May. He was also busted twice for gun possession and in January 2013 he was charged with menacing with a gun.

    Reached at her Tompkinsville home, Lekaj insisted she too was innocent and that Orta - a man she claims to barely know - gave her the gun."

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Resisting what? Dying?
    Mornin Joko. Resisting arrest.....they already acknowledged that Garner knocked the one officers arms away.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    This guy is an idiot.

    NYPD chokehold videographer: cops

    He has priors involving weapons, was in a known drug area, and had a weapon on him which he then gave to a minor in hopes that the cops wouldn't find it on him. If he thought the cops were following him and harassing him and he still had a gun on him, then I feel no pity for him.
    The guy is a scum bag - no doubt. The NYPD has enough problems though, and I'm not anxious to see them compound those problems.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya HB. After seeing the Cop mash Garners face into the ground with Both hands while on his back.....I thought they would hook the cop up for excessive force. But I think the jury all went with.....that Garner knew why the cops was there and he resisted. From there the GJ only looked at murder and manslaughter charges that would apply. Something deliberate by the Cop.
    I have no idea exactly what went on with the GJ, and I think I have a moderate understanding of what went on with the cops and Garner. I read somewhere (?) that Garner was shaking down customers of the businesses in the area and that they'd complained. Garner knew what he was doing and why the cops were there. I don't understand his resistance, and I also don't understand why the cops didn't let up once they had him down. And no, I sure don't think the death of Garner was deliberately caused.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I posted repeatedly that the GJ there indicted all but 3 out of over 250,000 cases brought before it in a 5 year period.
    They blew this one. I think the officers would be acquitted at trial, but I think a trial would have been in order in this case.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What is a ..... "ham sandwich".... lol
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I have no idea exactly what went on with the GJ, and I think I have a moderate understanding of what went on with the cops and Garner. I read somewhere (?) that Garner was shaking down customers of the businesses in the area and that they'd complained. Garner knew what he was doing and why the cops were there. I don't understand his resistance, and I also don't understand why the cops didn't let up once they had him down. And no, I sure don't think the death of Garner was deliberately caused.

    Mornin HB. The whole Key to the GJ is.....they were asked if there was a crime committed by the cop. Looking at all of it.....there was no crime committed by the cop.

    There is excessive force which would result in a Law Suit.....to be determined. Also there would be Police rules and regulations that would apply. Which the GJ has nothing to do with that.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Why do I believe this guy? Normally I would write it off to paranoia or attention getting. But for some reason I buy his story
    You believe him because you are applying persanl bias. You WANT to believe. The fact is that this same indiviudal has been arrested 27 times over the last few years for a variety of charges including weapons charges. Do the math, and thats once ever 3-4 months. So why is it that THIS time...the 28th time...THIS time its not because he is a scumbag but because of the cops unfairly targeting him?

    Same goes for his wife. People are saying she was arrested for slapping a woman...but they dont say 1-did she actually slap someone and 2-if so, how the **** does her husbands case have ANY relevance in her criminal act or the police response?

    Confirmation bias clouds judgement. It makes us see only what we want to see or rather expect to see.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin HB. The whole Key to the GJ is.....they were asked if there was a crime committed by the cop. Looking at all of it.....there was no crime committed by the cop.

    There is excessive force which would result in a Law Suit.....to be determined. Also there would be Police rules and regulations that would apply. Which the GJ has nothing to do with that.
    Yeah, I kind of thought a negligence charge would apply. It's not that I think the police were necessarily guilty of anything but bad judgement, but that I think the secrecy of the GJ works against the better interests of both the public and the police in this case. The civil suit is a given.

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