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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Someone clearly doesn't know how policing works....

    Patrol Cops aren't the ones who arrest CEOs for Fraud. Those are detectives. Patrol dudes bust yo ass for slingin' dope on the corner, speeding tickets, DWIs, and all that commonplace ****.

    That is how it works.
    They could though if a crime is committed in their jurisdiction. They have the power.

    Someone doesn't understand how crooked pigs are.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    First of all the founders where corrupt men that put in place a system that suppresses the masses. They had no intention of helping the vast majority of Americans, their intention was to help themselves and stop the populist revolution they saw coming. They did a damn good job. The only exception is Benjamin rush. He was good.
    Revisionist propaganda fun fun.

    Their are plenty of Americans that trust the government depending in who is in office. It's a silly notion, but that's how allot of people think. If their guy is in office they trust it...
    I havent actually met any of these people though. Perhaps you are surrounding yourself with idiots?

    No I certainly did not, their are much MUCH more. Socialism is the answer and will happen like it or not...
    Like it or not huh? That is a convincing message you are sending there.

    No again I don't have goggles. The Russians where stalinists and on a large scale socialism has never really existed. Communism can't exist with a government. They are mutually exclusive terms.
    Did I mention Russians or Stalinists? Nope I did not.

    You are brainwashed by free market crap that will always end in oligarchy as it has in america now... Whoever said "lazze fair" should have been shot on the spot...
    Those founders that you hate so much didnt want completely free markets either.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Revisionist propaganda fun fun.

    I havent actually met any of these people though. Perhaps you are surrounding yourself with idiots?

    Like it or not huh? That is a convincing message you are sending there.

    Did I mention Russians or Stalinists? Nope I did not.



    Those founders that you hate so much didnt want completely free markets either.
    Actually its pretty well documented in a peoples history of the united states by Howard Zinn. Why do you think they had to put down so many rebellions after the war? Or why they left slavery/misogyny intact? Or why Washington got the land he was due in the American Indian war, but gave it to no one else? Or why in the federalist papers it says:
    Happy will it be if our choice should be directed by a judicious estimate of our true interests, unperplexed and unbiased by considerations not connected with the public good.
    Notice how Hamilton says it would be good if their decisions where in their own interests and not for the common good?

    Theirs other examples, but I'm afraid no matter what evidence your confronted with you will deny it.

    Benjamin rush was good. He was a abolisionist. He believed in universal healthcare and education, he was a teacher. The rest where greedy men trying to protect and further what they had.

    No they wanted a market they could control and manipulate to their own ends.

    Do I care what you mentioned? Nope I do not...

    And yes like it or not their will be class war in the coming decades if current trends continue. For better or worse. It will be good if socialist, and bad if libertarian, but it could be that both unite and fight together with the understanding that different states with different rules will be made in the end.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Police don't have the power to make/change legislation.

    Im speaking from THEIR perspective.
    They do with lobbying which they do to no end.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I would call that moving the goal posts - speaking from the "perspective" of the outsider and student of history, the "War on Drugs" is a dismal failure.
    Its not moving goalposts..... Police have to do what they can, with what they can. If rounding up drug dealers in the hood prevents someone from getting shot on that particular night before they are in jail for the night, then its a win.

    To claim stating these facts (because thats what they are) is "moving goalposts" is just absurd. The goalpost was never legalization of drugs to begin with.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    No the easiest way would be to legalize drugs and address the systemic problems and inadequacy's of america.

    You obviously have american brainwashing as well. I do not have "hood" brainwashing as you so comically claimed...
    What are these "systemic problems and inadquacy's of America?

    Please, be specific.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    The police perspective is screw the people we want money.

    They lobby for prohibition they could stop that...

    Their are a few police that are for legalizing all drugs, their called leap, and most of it's members are no longer pigs because of their opinions...
    Im aware of Leap... I am a member (and no longer a Police Officer).

    However, it doesn't change the fact that you got to stop slinging fingers at Drugs Laws as the problem to blame for everything.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    They could though if a crime is committed in their jurisdiction. They have the power.

    Someone doesn't understand how crooked pigs are.
    Yes, because a patrol officer is going to get away with not answering calls for service, and manage to investigate a Fraud case that takes months in order to waltz up into a corporate office building and take down a CEO.

    You sir, don't know a damned thing about police work. Please STFU about police work if you are this ignorant.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Actually its pretty well documented in a peoples history of the united states by Howard Zinn. Why do you think they had to put down so many rebellions after the war? Or why they left slavery/misogyny intact? Or why Washington got the land he was due in the American Indian war, but gave it to no one else? Or why in the federalist papers it says:

    Notice how Hamilton says it would be good if their decisions where in their own interests and not for the common good?

    Theirs other examples, but I'm afraid no matter what evidence your confronted with you will deny it.

    Benjamin rush was good. He was a abolisionist. He believed in universal healthcare and education, he was a teacher. The rest where greedy men trying to protect and further what they had.

    No they wanted a market they could control and manipulate to their own ends.

    Do I care what you mentioned? Nope I do not...

    And yes like it or not their will be class war in the coming decades if current trends continue. For better or worse. It will be good if socialist, and bad if libertarian, but it could be that both unite and fight together with the understanding that different states with different rules will be made in the end.
    Howard Zinn seriously? The peoples history of the united states is a Manichean fable. A big pile of bull****.

    And of course you dont care what I actually say, you are only concerned with getting the propaganda out there.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Howard Zinn seriously? The peoples history of the united states is a Manichean fable. A big pile of bull****.

    And of course you dont care what I actually say, you are only concerned with getting the propaganda out there.
    Though there are parts of Zinn's history that have problems, there are other sections that are well documented as you might find if you were to take the time to read the book. Attacking a text simply because you have been told it is worthless does not support your position.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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