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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    It wouldn't be that hard for cops to toss a weapon into a guy's car, or an eight ball of coke, and make up charges. Happens all the time, especially in NY state.

    Basically if the cops have it out for you the only thing you can do is leave town.
    You're watching way too much TV. "Happens all the time".

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually no. Statistically speaking that ONE random criminal has just as much chance of affecting you personally as that ONE random cop.
    Nope, government policies are broad reaching. Since the problems with the poli e departments are nationwide, we're talking an aggregate breakdown in proper threat assessment. It's not just one cop, government is not 1. It's like saying I shouldn't worry about airport security because one TSA agent over there won't be a problem. But there's more than one and I have to deal with them whenever I fly.

    Government has always been the number one threat to freedom and liberty. A necessity, yes, but one we're meant to keep a very close eye on.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, government policies are broad reaching. Since the problems with the poli e departments are nationwide, we're talking an aggregate breakdown in proper threat assessment. It's not just one cop, government is not 1. It's like saying I shouldn't worry about airport security because one TSA agent over there won't be a problem. But there's more than one and I have to deal with them whenever I fly.

    Government has always been the number one threat to freedom and liberty. A necessity, yes, but one we're meant to keep a very close eye on.
    So, you show you not only do not understand statistical probability, but you also don't understand police departments. Try as you might, those departments are local, have local rules and policies and are under local control.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So, you show you not only do not understand statistical probability, but you also don't understand police departments. Try as you might, those departments are local, have local rules and policies and are under local control.
    And yet what they are being taught and trained how to react spans nationally. Obviously this isn't a local issue.

    And I likely know well more about statistics and statistical analysis that you could ever hope to achieve.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Nice...

    That is an award winning deflection.

    But, it makes no sense whatsoever. You just proved he was "known to police" and they could nail him pretty easy to get even.
    Wait...where did you go?



    Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody?

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats why I decided not to go into teaching...but...not really the point. You mention the happy medium, which is REALLY your way of avoiding the point. The point is...if you allow lawlessness, bad **** happens.
    No one said anything about lawlessness.

    They did not approach Garner to choke him because he was selling cigarettes illegally. They didnt approach him necessarily to arrest him. He did not get put to the ground because he was accused of legally selling cigarettes. For all we know, they would have issued a citation and that would have been the end of it. Does it look like Mr Garner was in any way shape or form receptive to being issued a citation, politely or otherwise? THEN what? Just ignore it because the lawbreaker says 'leave me alone'?
    While he should not have resisted arrest, the violent actions taken to subdue him (and ultimately kill him) were excessive. What the heck do you think would happen to me as a teacher if I had done what this officer did to a student for a similar offense?
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We don't know if he wasn't asked politely first.
    Maybe. Maybe not. However they approached the man at first does not justify how it ended up.


    In any event, when a police officer tells you to give them your hands, it's not a polite request, it's a command. As it should be.
    "Give them my hands" as in being arrested or being searched? I absolutely DO NOT have to give them my hands unless I am being arrested right then and there.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You're watching way too much TV. "Happens all the time".
    I don't watch TV... it rots the brain.

    I learned enough growing up to know what the cops are capable of. See, unlike you, I actually relate to my community and find out what goes on.

    There are lots of good cops, and lots of bad cops. It's you who needs to stop watching TV.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    No one said anything about lawlessness.



    While he should not have resisted arrest, the violent actions taken to subdue him (and ultimately kill him) were excessive. What the heck do you think would happen to me as a teacher if I had done what this officer did to a student for a similar offense?
    Lord...its funny you think that was a 'violent action' or that it 'killed him'. DO you also think Elvis' toilet bowl killed him?

    As a teacher you have avenues. If a student ignores you and just blows you off, you refer them to the dean, the principal, have them suspended...WTF ever. In this case a cop responded to a call. Asked the guy questions. He became belligerent and uncooperative. We apparently both agree...he shouldnt have resisted arrest. But he DID. So what happens in your world when criminals learn all they have to do is tell a cop to leave them alone and the cop is left to do...nothing?

    Can we please end the drama? Please? He wasnt beaten to death for selling cigarettes illegal. He wasnt choked to death. He wasnt killed. The officer approached about an alleged crime, one he has had numerous citations for, and he resisted. The physical exertion cause him to go into cardiac arrest and he died an hour later. The end.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I don't watch TV... it rots the brain.

    I learned enough growing up to know what the cops are capable of. See, unlike you, I actually relate to my community and find out what goes on.

    There are lots of good cops, and lots of bad cops. It's you who needs to stop watching TV.
    Yeah, right. Unlike you I actually know the people around me, including the police officers who live and patrol my community. I even know the criminals who complain about the police. I call bull**** on the TV business. You're reading right from a TV script.

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