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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, however in threat assessment a random criminal has a lower probability of negatively affecting me than the government. So probably should err on the side of caution against the government, statistically speaking.
    Actually no. Statistically speaking that ONE random criminal has just as much chance of affecting you personally as that ONE random cop.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What do you think law enforcement officials should do when they see someone committing a miksdemeanor, go to issue a citation, and the individual that is committing the misdemeanor refuses to so much as provide a name, let alone accept a citation? How do you see things going once people realize that they can just blow off cops and have absolutely no responsibility for misdemeanor crimes and no consequence or repercussion whatsoever?
    Oh, just shoot them.

    I mean, its a slippery slope, if you let them sell illegal cigarettes, then the next thing you know they will be raping children.

    FFS, you have no idea how policing works and you're trying to defend an execution. You don't use a choke hold on a man who shows no signs of violence. Ever. In civilized countries, police arew restricted to using force one degree higher than the threat against them or civilians. If there is no threat, they cannot use violence, merely restrictive holds, if necessary.

    Don't give me the danger ****, policing is far far safer than a career as a mental health professional, a construction worker or even pilot.

    Your scenario is ludicrous, as its the law, you must identify yourself to a police officer or face charges of obstruction of justice, which is a felony. That gives them the right to make an arrest then and there.

    If citations are not effective, that is a matter to be debated and fixed, you do not become legalized vigilantes dispensing a level of justice YOU think appropriate.

    FFS, conservatives go ape**** every time Obama thinks about an executive order, whine and whine about he's shredding the constitution, but at the first sign of criticism of a cop, you're willing to throw out the whole bill of rights.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I guess you won't answer the question about coincidence.

    Keep deflecting and excusing corrupt cops.
    In order to ascertain 'coincidence' we have to know a little about the facts. Its rather obvious from the husbands arrest history he is committing criminal acts that he is getting caught at approximately every 2-3 months (27 arrests in a relatively short period of time). By his on record, his arrest wold certainly be considered "normal" for him. Correct? Now....to the wife...Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody? If she actually slapped someone, then there is no conspiracy. So...to answer the question, I will ask again....

    Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody?

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    In order to ascertain 'coincidence' we have to know a little about the facts. Its rather obvious from the husbands arrest history he is committing criminal acts that he is getting caught at approximately every 2-3 months (27 arrests in a relatively short period of time). By his on record, his arrest wold certainly be considered "normal" for him. Correct? Now....to the wife...Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody? If she actually slapped someone, then there is no conspiracy. So...to answer the question, I will ask again....

    Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody?
    Nice...

    That is an award winning deflection.

    But, it makes no sense whatsoever. You just proved he was "known to police" and they could nail him pretty easy to get even.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    It wouldn't be that hard for cops to toss a weapon into a guy's car, or an eight ball of coke, and make up charges. Happens all the time, especially in NY state.

    Basically if the cops have it out for you the only thing you can do is leave town.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    Are you admitting cops are almost all crooked and that's why their "attracted" to criminals?
    That little tactic doesn't work for you either way. Because they seem to be from your accounts "attracted" to you.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Oh, just shoot them.

    I mean, its a slippery slope, if you let them sell illegal cigarettes, then the next thing you know they will be raping children.

    FFS, you have no idea how policing works and you're trying to defend an execution. You don't use a choke hold on a man who shows no signs of violence. Ever. In civilized countries, police arew restricted to using force one degree higher than the threat against them or civilians. If there is no threat, they cannot use violence, merely restrictive holds, if necessary.

    Don't give me the danger ****, policing is far far safer than a career as a mental health professional, a construction worker or even pilot.

    Your scenario is ludicrous, as its the law, you must identify yourself to a police officer or face charges of obstruction of justice, which is a felony. That gives them the right to make an arrest then and there.

    If citations are not effective, that is a matter to be debated and fixed, you do not become legalized vigilantes dispensing a level of justice YOU think appropriate.

    FFS, conservatives go ape**** every time Obama thinks about an executive order, whine and whine about he's shredding the constitution, but at the first sign of criticism of a cop, you're willing to throw out the whole bill of rights.
    You are cute when you are angry.

    That was a good yahoo son. Your response had zero relative bearing to my comment, but it was a good rant nonetheless.

    He wasnt executed. He wasnt killed. He wasnt choked to death. He never stopped breathing during the 'chokehold'. He had a cardiac arrest and he died. Grossly overweight and morbidly obese people should not resist arrest.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I think there is a happy medium between asking politely and delivering a chokehold. If you don't agree then let me just say I hope you're not a school teacher.
    We don't know if he wasn't asked politely first. In any event, when a police officer tells you to give them your hands, it's not a polite request, it's a command. As it should be.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Nice...

    That is an award winning deflection.

    But, it makes no sense whatsoever. You just proved he was "known to police" and they could nail him pretty easy to get even.
    Its not even SLIGHTLY a deflection. The male suspect gets arrested every few months. In order to ascertain coincidence or conspiracy, you need to answer ONE SIMPLE QUESTION. Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody?

    Its really a simple question. Answer it and I will be able to answer your question regarding 'coincidence'. Eagerly. Gladly.

    Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody?

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Curious that you think that the only option if a person is committing a misdemeanor or minor offense that they must be violently assaulted and beaten to death because you see no other option.
    How do you even get that from the post you quoted as responding to? Nice bit of putting what's in your head into someone else's words.

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