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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    At 2:30 you see the deliberate crushing of him. That man had done exactly nothing. He was crushed, beaten and tazered more times that can be counted. No charges against the officers.
    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku42PPzYEqs[url]

    Police beat a lot of people to death. Got crazy with tazers. Have burned off men's genitals with tazers. Shooting men a dozen times - no crime, no weapon. Another, fired 64 rounds at a man (no crime even alleged) from a long distance - the officer first shouting "he has a gun" and after unloading 15 rounds from his Glock and reloading runs towards the dead man, saying to his recorder "good, you got the knife" - an outright lie as the video showed he was holding brake pads. The crime he had committed none.
    YouTube has almost an endless list of such videos, and increasingly women being assaulted to. Not convictions. Maybe, rare, the officer is fired.
    And for every 1 videoed there will be 100 that aren't.

    Watch, and you will see nearly always the officers involved are fat skinheads.

    While the majority of criminals aren't police, the worst possible violent assailants you could possibly face are the police. You are totally defenseless. No one will come to your rescue - at the most my videotape your destruction and death. No police will come to your rescue, they are the criminals and those who aren't will just watch. And, because the police are the criminals, there will be no hurry to call EMTs, and when the EMTs arrive often they do little and are delayed by the police.

    IF you are under violent attack, the worst possible situation is police are the assailants.

    Yet it is known why this is so often. You see it on this forum. People support the police no matter what.

    Sometimes I've read people ask why Germans didn't put up any resistance against what was being done to Jews by Nazi brown shirts and police. You only have to see the attitudes of so many people about horrific and murderous police violence against citizens to understand why they didn't. No one can oppose the police no matter what they do.
    No joko. Kelly was resisting with great force. What happened was unfortunate, but the police were not wrong. He was.
    And as said when that was posted;
    Emotive.
    You might try leaning the evidence and what actually occurred.
    He was struck in the face because he grabbed and was trying to take the taser. The response was measured and appropriate to get him to stop.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Like tends to attract like.
    Are you admitting cops are almost all crooked and that's why their "attracted" to criminals?

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    from the OP article
    "Orta was indicted on weapons charges after an arrest on Aug. 2 in the St. George neighborhood of Staten Island."

    His arrest has nothing to do with the filming. I imagine a defense attorney will claim they are related somehow. Seems Orta is of the "not my fault" crowed. Don't carry a weapon unless your authorized.
    He's authorized by the 2nd amendment.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    If you don't know that, then why are we even debating?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Who is that? What convicted felon with a gun on him?
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What do you think law enforcement officials should do when they see someone committing a miksdemeanor, go to issue a citation, and the individual that is committing the misdemeanor refuses to so much as provide a name, let alone accept a citation? How do you see things going once people realize that they can just blow off cops and have absolutely no responsibility for misdemeanor crimes and no consequence or repercussion whatsoever?
    I think there is a happy medium between asking politely and delivering a chokehold. If you don't agree then let me just say I hope you're not a school teacher.
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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Who the hell are you?
    The name's Wanderer. CycloneWanderer. I like long walks, listening to books on tape, and playing sports. I dislike people who don't understand my witty comments and quote them days after they've been posted while acting offended. It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    great. but what if they wont stop and wont even give you Jose Ramirez? And what happens to law and order when people realize there is no consequence to breaking the law?
    Curious that you think that the only option if a person is committing a misdemeanor or minor offense that they must be violently assaulted and beaten to death because you see no other option.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I think there is a happy medium between asking politely and delivering a chokehold. If you don't agree then let me just say I hope you're not a school teacher.
    Thats why I decided not to go into teaching...but...not really the point. You mention the happy medium, which is REALLY your way of avoiding the point. The point is...if you allow lawlessness, bad **** happens. They did not approach Garner to choke him because he was selling cigarettes illegally. They didnt approach him necessarily to arrest him. He did not get put to the ground because he was accused of legally selling cigarettes. For all we know, they would have issued a citation and that would have been the end of it. Does it look like Mr Garner was in any way shape or form receptive to being issued a citation, politely or otherwise? THEN what? Just ignore it because the lawbreaker says 'leave me alone'?

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Curious that you think that the only option if a person is committing a misdemeanor or minor offense that they must be violently assaulted and beaten to death because you see no other option.
    Geeeeezus....the drama....

    He was not beaten to death, nor was he assaulted. He was taken to the ground and cuffed because he resisted arrest. He didnt die because he was taken to the ground, he died because he was 200+ pounds overweight and resisted arrest and had a heart attack (over an hour after the incident).

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Did the police set up the wife to slap somebody or did she actually slap somebody?
    I guess you won't answer the question about coincidence.

    Keep deflecting and excusing corrupt cops.
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