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Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

I bet he has violated countless people rights, and at the very least I am sure he is part of the fop, a distinctly terrible organization that has the power to a quit it's members of criminal prosecution, and lobby's for unconstitutional laws.

No matter reality keep the dogma flowing, because to you its one big conspiracy theory. Seriously dude you know nothing about the gentleman in the photo nor about every damn cop in the country. Nothing but subjective opinions on your part.
 
That's not a straw man, its a question. I never said you where the same guy...

Do you understand what a straw man is?
I only stated that it was not me. I did not accuse you of a strawman argument. Ironically now that you are accusing me of a strawman fallacy for stating that I wasnt the poster that you were accusing me of, is a strawman.

Person A has position X. "That was not me."
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X). "That's not a straw man, its a question. I never said you where the same guy..."
Person B attacks position Y. "Do you understand what a straw man is?"
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed. ← Your next post
 
I only stated that it was not me. I did not accuse you of a strawman argument. Ironically now that you are accusing me of a strawman fallacy for stating that I wasnt the poster that you were accusing me of, is a strawman.

Person A has position X. "That was not me."
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X). "That's not a straw man, its a question. I never said you where the same guy..."
Person B attacks position Y. "Do you understand what a straw man is?"
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed. ← Your next post
You most certainly did. You claimed I used a strawman in that post for the love of god...
 
No matter reality keep the dogma flowing, because to you its one big conspiracy theory. Seriously dude you know nothing about the gentleman in the photo nor about every damn cop in the country. Nothing but subjective opinions on your part.
I know they are all members of fop, and that pigs generally violate peoples rights as a rule. They do it all the time.

I also know pigs support one another vehemently even when they are obviously guilty.

I also know you probably know nothing of that specific pig either, so let's not make up stuff shall we?
 
You want evidence of a repressive police state? This is exactly that.
 
You most certainly did. You claimed I used a strawman in that post for the love of god...
Bwhahahaa Ok I can see that you are not being serious.

I know they are all members of fop, and that pigs generally violate peoples rights as a rule. They do it all the time.

I also know pigs support one another vehemently even when they are obviously guilty.

I also know you probably know nothing of that specific pig either, so let's not make up stuff shall we?
Well ok then your bias is extremely funny. You are building a excellent argument for me, thank you.

Here is something to think about> There are a reported 780,000 police officers in the US. The FOP has 325,000 members altogether. That means 455,000 police officers do not belong to the FOP.

Phoenix police union loses members over dissension
Good Cop, Bad Cop: How Infighting Is Costing New Jersey Taxpayers - WNYC


You my friend have been watching too much tv for your own good. :p
 
Bwhahahaa Ok I can see that you are not being serious.

Well ok then your bias is extremely funny. You are building a excellent argument for me, thank you.

Here is something to think about> There are a reported 780,000 police officers in the US. The FOP has 325,000 members altogether. That means 455,000 police officers do not belong to the FOP.

Phoenix police union loses members over dissension
Good Cop, Bad Cop: How Infighting Is Costing New Jersey Taxpayers - WNYC


You my friend have been watching too much tv for your own good. [emoji14]
Well you did say it was a straw man argument, I have no idea what your laughing at...

So 50% of them are members, and the vast majority of those members are street cops. They still lobby for unconstitutional things, and they still can pardon any cop regardless of membership. They still are part of a systemically corrupt system which they contribute to through their lobbying efforts, and they still defend and support racist pigs.

Police in america as a hole are heavily militarized, and in my community do allot of harm with little good. If cops where really out for the common good they would arrest ceos when they commit obvious crimes and heists, and not just drug dealers and people selling loose cigarettes. They do not because they know which side their bread is buttered on.
 
Well you did say it was a straw man argument, I have no idea what your laughing at...

So 50% of them are members, and the vast majority of those members are street cops. They still lobby for unconstitutional things, and they still can pardon any cop regardless of membership. They still are part of a systemically corrupt system which they contribute to through their lobbying efforts, and they still defend and support racist pigs.

Police in america as a hole are heavily militarized, and in my community do allot of harm with little good. If cops where really out for the common good they would arrest ceos when they commit obvious crimes and heists, and not just drug dealers and people selling loose cigarettes. They do not because they know which side their bread is buttered on.

Thank you for your opinions, but its too drenched in bias to be of any use.
 
Thank you for your opinions, but its too drenched in bias to be of any use.
I'm not biased. I am speaking from the reality of the situation.

What's biased is giving the cops (or corporatists for that matter) a free pass based on what the government says instead of what the facts are.

Try looking at things objectively, and not through a pair of american beer goggles...
 
haha
OWNED

You used to be a quality poster. Now you're just a team player in your messages.

You have no clue what this was even about. His message was a low intelligence response "days after" a message by b_dubz, and his message to me was "days after" my message. So his comment about days later is part of why my message - as he is a self contradiction and really is laughing at himself not realizing it.

Nor did I say I was offended - his message I quoted wasn't even a message responding to me or to anything I had posted. My message was to a relative noob posting pointless and wrong messages acting like he's some big deal old timer voice of the forum. All his message you wrote "owned" to does is point out his messages are self contradicts, something beyond him to realize - and beyond you're even attempt to explore. I'm just the bad-guy to you because I don't think police can beat up old men for no reason - and you do.

Of course you never checked any of that out about the message sequence, did you? BTW, your increasing usage of giant letters is like an old man yelling at the clouds thing. :lol:
 
I'm not biased. I am speaking from the reality of the situation.

What's biased is giving the cops (or corporatists for that matter) a free pass based on what the government says instead of what the facts are.

Try looking at things objectively, and not through a pair of american beer goggles...

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Well that is essentially what most Americans do. They look at the world from the place of america being number one, regardless if the only things we are actually first in is prison population and secondary schools. The latter is even flawed because accessibility is not measured for schools, and we are severely lacking in that department.
 
Well that is essentially what most Americans do. They look at the world from the place of america being number one, regardless if the only things we are actually first in is prison population and secondary schools. The latter is even flawed because accessibility is not measured for schools, and we are severely lacking in that department.

It would seem that your own goggles see the world a certain way.
 
It would seem that your own goggles see the world a certain way.
Nope I got 20 20 vision dude... I see the world around me for all its beauty and screwiness, and where I live it really can highlight the political and authoritarian screwiness that is america...

Thinking the police are more good than evil, or that the majority do not abuse their power is indicative of some level of American brainwashing... Those would be the goggles I am referring to...
 
"Hands Up- Don't Shoot"

"Pants Up- Don't Loot"
 
Nope I got 20 20 vision dude... I see the world around me for all its beauty and screwiness, and where I live it really can highlight the political and authoritarian screwiness that is america...

Thinking the police are more good than evil, or that the majority do not abuse their power is indicative of some level of American brainwashing... Those would be the goggles I am referring to...

I have yet to meet a American that trusts our Government. It takes brainwashing to believe that Americans exist that trust the government. A true patriot no trust in their government, at least that is how the founders intended it to be.


But it is quite obvious that you have been listening to Leftist propaganda long enough to believe that crap. You hit just about every talking point that the occupiers/anarchists/communists/hugo chavez/che/marx etc ever made.

Your goggles are red my friend. And as such your perceptions of the world will be tainted by the song that you sing. So as you sit in your intelectual cage singing your songs that were taught to you, I will be listening to this:
 
Well you did say it was a straw man argument, I have no idea what your laughing at...

So 50% of them are members, and the vast majority of those members are street cops. They still lobby for unconstitutional things, and they still can pardon any cop regardless of membership. They still are part of a systemically corrupt system which they contribute to through their lobbying efforts, and they still defend and support racist pigs.

Police in america as a hole are heavily militarized, and in my community do allot of harm with little good. If cops where really out for the common good they would arrest ceos when they commit obvious crimes and heists, and not just drug dealers and people selling loose cigarettes. They do not because they know which side their bread is buttered on.

Someone clearly doesn't know how policing works....

Patrol Cops aren't the ones who arrest CEOs for Fraud. Those are detectives. Patrol dudes bust yo ass for slingin' dope on the corner, speeding tickets, DWIs, and all that commonplace ****.

That is how it works.
 
Nope I got 20 20 vision dude... I see the world around me for all its beauty and screwiness, and where I live it really can highlight the political and authoritarian screwiness that is america...

Thinking the police are more good than evil, or that the majority do not abuse their power is indicative of some level of American brainwashing... Those would be the goggles I am referring to...

Maybe you have too much of that "hood" brainwashing going on.

When gang bangers in the hood slinging dope quit shooting and killing everyone they can find including kids.... Maybe DOPE won't get you arrested.

Easiest way to prevent a murder in the hood, round up some dope slingers.
 
Maybe you have too much of that "hood" brainwashing going on.

When gang bangers in the hood slinging dope quit shooting and killing everyone they can find including kids.... Maybe DOPE won't get you arrested.

Easiest way to prevent a murder in the hood, round up some dope slingers.

A little edit for the last sentence Easiest way to prevent a murder in the hood, legalise some dope. Not that legalising drugs would make the gangs go away instantly; the Mafia was strengthened by prohibition and eighty years later they still exist but at least they don't commit as many murders as during the 20s and 30s.
 
A little edit for the last sentence Easiest way to prevent a murder in the hood, legalise some dope. Not that legalising drugs would make the gangs go away instantly; the Mafia was strengthened by prohibition and eighty years later they still exist but at least they don't commit as many murders as during the 20s and 30s.

Police don't have the power to make/change legislation.

Im speaking from THEIR perspective.
 
A little edit for the last sentence "Easiest way to prevent a murder in the hood, legalise some dope". Not that legalising drugs would make the gangs go away instantly; the Mafia was strengthened by prohibition and eighty years later they still exist but at least they don't commit as many murders as during the 20s and 30s.

Police don't have the power to make/change legislation.

Im speaking from THEIR perspective.

I would call that moving the goal posts - speaking from the "perspective" of the outsider and student of history, the "War on Drugs" is a dismal failure.
 
Maybe you have too much of that "hood" brainwashing going on.

When gang bangers in the hood slinging dope quit shooting and killing everyone they can find including kids.... Maybe DOPE won't get you arrested.

Easiest way to prevent a murder in the hood, round up some dope slingers.
No the easiest way would be to legalize drugs and address the systemic problems and inadequacy's of america.

You obviously have american brainwashing as well. I do not have "hood" brainwashing as you so comically claimed...
 
Police don't have the power to make/change legislation.

Im speaking from THEIR perspective.
The police perspective is screw the people we want money.

They lobby for prohibition they could stop that...

Their are a few police that are for legalizing all drugs, their called leap, and most of it's members are no longer pigs because of their opinions...
 
I have yet to meet a American that trusts our Government. It takes brainwashing to believe that Americans exist that trust the government. A true patriot no trust in their government, at least that is how the founders intended it to be.


But it is quite obvious that you have been listening to Leftist propaganda long enough to believe that crap. You hit just about every talking point that the occupiers/anarchists/communists/hugo chavez/che/marx etc ever made.

Your goggles are red my friend. And as such your perceptions of the world will be tainted by the song that you sing. So as you sit in your intelectual cage singing your songs that were taught to you, I will be listening to this:


First of all the founders where corrupt men that put in place a system that suppresses the masses. They had no intention of helping the vast majority of Americans, their intention was to help themselves and stop the populist revolution they saw coming. They did a damn good job. The only exception is Benjamin rush. He was good.

Their are plenty of Americans that trust the government depending in who is in office. It's a silly notion, but that's how allot of people think. If their guy is in office they trust it...

No I certainly did not, their are much MUCH more. Socialism is the answer and will happen like it or not...

No again I don't have goggles. The Russians where stalinists and on a large scale socialism has never really existed. Communism can't exist with a government. They are mutually exclusive terms.

You are brainwashed by free market crap that will always end in oligarchy as it has in america now... Whoever said "lazze fair" should have been shot on the spot...
 
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