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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Orta doesn't look to me like a momma's boy, so how does his mother know the police have been following her baby all this time? Another mother who takes as gospel every word her precious baby tells her.

    Baby boy is getting his 15 minutes in the sun. We'll see if there's any truth to the charge when it gets to court. Hoping to sway the jury by claiming a police frame job is a time honoured defense in America.
    You're probably right, he's probably not a mams's boy. I also doubt they were following him around. But, once they did catch him for something, and realized who he is, I'm sure their attitudes toward him hardened beyond just any other petty criminal.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    His wife is getting it too. She got arrested for allegedly slapping somebody at a grocery store... People who make the NYPD look bad don't last long.
    That crime has a victim..... But of course, its just police harassment :roll

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So you think it's coincidence that a person who took a video of the NYPD choking a man - would get arrested soon after? You also think it's coincidental that his wife was arrested after?
    If she goes slapping people in the grocery store... yes.

    VICTIMS Hatuey, VICTIMS.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I am furious!!!



    It was NOT A FATAL CHOKEHOLD!!! The media makes me ill.
    That is correct.

    If the chokehold was fatal... he would have died on scene.

    He didn't die on scene.

    Therefore... the chokehold was not fatal.

    What was fatal, was the struggle the fat man dealt with (of his own choosing) combined with his poor health.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    That is correct.

    If the chokehold was fatal... he would have died on scene.

    He didn't die on scene.

    Therefore... the chokehold was not fatal.

    What was fatal, was the struggle the fat man dealt with (of his own choosing) combined with his poor health.
    How does that jive with this?
    From earlier this year:
    "Monday’s death of President Ronald Reagan’s press secretary James S. Brady has been ruled a homicide resulting from the gunshot wound he suffered in the assassination attempt on Reagan in 1981, more than three decades ago."

    Medical examiner rules James Brady
    Are we hypocrites? Either a previous action is or can be a cause of death, or it cannot. We cannot have it both ways.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    How does that jive with this?


    Are we hypocrites? Either a previous action is or can be a cause of death, or it cannot. We cannot have it both ways.
    Your not getting what I am saying.

    The COMBINATION of the struggle, not just the one maneuver, was the result of Eric Garner's death. It was NOT the mere use of a particular hold that killed him.
    His body's reaction to the struggle AS A WHOLE (not just one move) was the result of his death.

    Him claiming "I can't breathe" over and over, was a good indication that he could, indeed breathe. But his body couldn't put up with the struggle/pressure.

    If he would have just went limp when the officers moved in to arrest him after his initial resistance, he would be alive.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Is it difficult for you to understand how he might not be a fan of the cops?

    It is about the same thing as why an Afghani might not be a fan of the US after his village, including friends and family, is droned by the US.

    Not rocket science, just predictable human behavior.

    The cops are protectors of the status quo, and the status quo is pretty damn rotten from the perspective of young black and latino men in most cities in the US.
    He has 20-something priors. I know why he isn't a fan of the cops, he keeps getting caught!
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    And his wife who supposedly slapped someone? That one fails Occam's razor
    Yeah, it does, and the simplest explanation that is most likely is that the long time criminal husband didn't marry some law abiding peaceful wife.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I posted repeatedly that the GJ there indicted all but 3 out of over 250,000 cases brought before it in a 5 year period.
    Which meant the same bit of nothing every time you posted it considering you don't seem to understand why some cases are brought before the grand jury and some aren't.

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    Re: Man Who Filmed Cop Choking Eric Garner Was Indicted (Video).....

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Your not getting what I am saying.

    The COMBINATION of the struggle, not just the one maneuver, was the result of Eric Garner's death. It was NOT the mere use of a particular hold that killed him.
    His body's reaction to the struggle AS A WHOLE (not just one move) was the result of his death.

    Him claiming "I can't breathe" over and over, was a good indication that he could, indeed breathe. But his body couldn't put up with the struggle/pressure.

    If he would have just went limp when the officers moved in to arrest him after his initial resistance, he would be alive.
    Ok, I partially misunderstood you. Yes, his weight and (lack of) fitness were indeed factors. But, it's pretty damn unlikely that a death or near-death event would have ever happened without the chokehold. Still to suggest he died from anything else is ignoring the elephant in the room.

    We prosecute drunk drivers even though they have not harmed or killed anybody yet (and statistically probably never will).

    We prosecute people who pull the plug on their terminally ill spouses even though the spouse is going to die shortly anyway, possibly even within a matter of hours or days.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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