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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So... I needed to explain myself when I said a 17 year old Old Navy clerk wouldn't understand that a military ID was a part of the uniform? You need it spelled out that much for you?

    I'll speak more slowly, so even you can understand.

    A...... 17....... year....... old........ would...... not...... understand...... that........ a...... military....... ID........ card....... is..... part....... of........ a........ military....... uniform.

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    a 17 year old clerk at Old Navy isn't going to know this.
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    Agreed, but I doubt a civilian working on Black Friday would know that, or would probably feel disrespectful asking for it. An actual soldier would have no issue showing it though...
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    I don't think this should be a federal offense unless the ruse was used in a way to garner federal benefits. If they are otherwise using the ruse to gain financial benefit or other decietful gains, I'm sure there are laws for things such as that at lower levels, or at the very least it should be a federal offense. If it's just some douche dressed as a soldier...well I mean, can we really punish that? It's a free country after all.
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    This thread put me in the mood to look up some other incidences. Check this one out where some Marines call out a fake Army Sergeant Major. I wish they had had some Soldiers with them because some of the items wrong on his uniform are hilariously wrong. The brass SGM rank on the beret and the infantry officer branch insignia on the lapel (even though he says he is also a military police) were the first to catch my eyes.


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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So because you never saw anybody get spat on, that means it didn't happen? I'm sure that you must be right. My husband, who served from 1967 to 1992, must be lying.

    I have no ax to grind, other than the fact that Vietnam vets were treated like ****, and today's vets are not, even though they were all involved in wars that we shouldn't have been involved in.
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    I wore the uniform from 1970 to 1974 and was never spat on or called a baby killer. That doesn't mean it never happened but I don't believe it was that wide spread. I think the number who were spat on probably equals the number of military members now days who get free houses and free cars.
    You were the one to have this naive comment
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    People coming back today are thrown parades, given free houses, free cars, and made out to be heroes, even if they never left the motor pool or the mess hall.
    Show me the freaking link service people are given free houses and cars. Heck , we have military families on food stamps now days.

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    What was the reasoning for the decision.
    I think it was freedom of speech.
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Kind of makes me think about the level of privilege soldiers have in our culture's iconography, and how impersonating that is some kind of sacrilege.

    We shouldn't venerate all soldiers. Some people use the military to get through college, and they get nice cushy jobs in the military -- no self-sacrifice required. I don't really view those people with the same level of esteem as someone who fought in a war zone and saw their friends die. But they seem to receive a sort of carte blanche kind of pride, regardless of what they did.

    People shouldn't impersonate someone in the military, anymore than they should impersonate a cop or someone in government. On the other hand, I don't think upper class people who get high ranks in the military and basically do nothing should get my respect either.
    I think the only way you could ever understand why they are given this kind of treatment, is to actually be in the military. You are asked to do a lot of things while being paid terribly to do them. I don't think the general populace understand what the average military member goes thru. Constant moves, constant time away from family in dangerous areas of the world.. giving up all your rights to keep your job.. you cant speak out, you cant protest, you cant be openly a part of any political or social movement. You really give up a lot of rights as a military member. How else are you going to convince people to swallow such a pill if they are not at least given social rewards... They are definatly not rewarded montitarily for this sacrifice.
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    You were the one to have this naive comment Show me the freaking link service people are given free houses and cars.
    Wounded soldier gets new mortgage-free home, donated by Built to Honor program | abc13.com

    Wounded Soldier Gets Fresh Start, Free New Home - 8 News NOW

    Wounded soldier gets free home

    Deserving soldier gets surprise with new home - KCTV5

    Soldier Gets Surprise Of A Lifetime With H-E-B Smart Home | Texas Public Radio

    Injured soldier gets free house in Galt through new program for vets | The Sacramento Bee

    Injured soldier to get free Hendersonville home

    Need I go on?

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    Operation FINALLY HOME | Official Site

    This ^^ is one of the bigger places, but there are places all over the country that do this.

    Heck , we have military families on food stamps now days.
    And? Soldiers were on food stamps when my husband was in the military, too.
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Okay you have listed some injured warriors who by public donations were given homes and I am all for that. But your initial tone was that all the troops now days were coming home to rose petal parades with keys to a new car and home.
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    People coming back today are thrown parades, given free houses, free cars, and made out to be heroes, even if they never left the motor pool or the mess hall.
    I just detect too much bitterness and envy in you. Those of us during the Vietnam era did not get the royal welcome like those of WWII or recent battles, but I didn't join for a parade. I am just happy most people today are proud of our soldiers and do show their appreciation. Why not?

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Okay you have listed some injured warriors who by public donations were given homes and I am all for that. But your initial tone was that all the troops now days were coming home to rose petal parades with keys to a new car and home.
    I never said "all" the troops, but granted, the troops are treated much better now than they were then. If you can't see that, nothing I say is going to change that.

    I just detect too much bitterness and envy in you. Those of us during the Vietnam era did not get the royal welcome like those of WWII or recent battles, but I didn't join for a parade. I am just happy most people today are proud of our soldiers and do show their appreciation. Why not?
    I really don't care what you detect in me, quite frankly. My husband didn't join for a parade, either, but he sure as hell didn't join to be treated poorly upon return.

    Good for you that you are proud of our soldiers today, but you, if you did serve in Vietnam, are a rarity. My husband spends a lot of time with other Vietnam Vets, and spends time at the VA hospitals, etc - since he retired in 1992. After he retired, he drove the DAV van for many years. He was hard pressed to find Vietnam Vets who didn't feel the same way he did.

    I am not bitter, or envious. Nor is he, nor is the other vets that he talked to regularly. They just don't understand the difference in the two. Why are *these* soldiers treated differently from *those* soldiers?
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