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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    But that doesn't belittle the fact that they served. Just because somebody is a mental patient doesn't mean that they don't deserve respect. Remember that a lot of people developed mental health issues as a result of their service. And 5 figures could be as little as 10K a year, which is around minimum wage.



    OK. I will say this. I am the wife of a Vietnam-era Vet. Nobody knows the frustration of this more than I do. People coming back today are thrown parades, given free houses, free cars, and made out to be heroes, even if they never left the motor pool or the mess hall. Todays soldiers come back heroes and have possibly never even seen combat. Vietnam vets came back and were spat on. My husband had to remove his uniform when he disembarked his plane, along with all the other soldiers, because his company commander didn't want them to be spat on, or called baby killers.

    Big difference in the way they were treated, and it stinks. You see homeless vets now? I'd bet 80% or higher are Vietnam vets.

    The issue I have is this -- people shouldn't talk about things they don't understand. If they've never served, they don't have the right to complain about the military. Put on a uniform, walk a mile in a soldier's boots, or be the wife or the child of a soldier, and then they can talk. Otherwise, they can STFU.
    I wore the uniform from 1970 to 1974 and was never spat on or called a baby killer. That doesn't mean it never happened but I don't believe it was that wide spread.
    I think the number who were spat on probably equals the number of military members now days who get free houses and free cars.

    You seem to have a ax to grind about our current military members for some reason. Yes, in some ways they may have things better than us who served during the Vietnam era as I am certain I had it better than those who served in WW1.
    So what?

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    When my husband was in the Army, there was a policy of no BDUs in public. He complains every time we see soldiers wearing their BDUs, when they are shopping, etc. He swears that they do just it to get attention. He has also wondered aloud, several times, when this policy changed.
    I was Army and that was a local policy that is usually used in areas where service members have been targeted, such as Hawaii. We had that policy in Hawaii but didn't in Denver.
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more and video @: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Saw this video earlier this week. Its really disgusting that people impersonate soldiers to get some sort of personal ego trip or some sort of deal. I'm glad that he got called out for his disgusting acts and I hope that if he did indeed break a law be persecuted for it.
    As a Vet, it is wrong and I still couldn't care less. It isn't a criminal act.
    It is not like he is falsely receiving Veteran benefits from the Gov.

    And no, at the time of the video (learning differently later) the guy didn't prove that he wasn't a vet, only that he may be misrepresenting his actual awards.
    For all we knew at that point is he could have been a disabled Veteran that lost his ability to think rationally in some areas, and as such, engages in embellishment of his actual achievements.
    Frankly, if that had been the case I would be more pissed off at the guy taking the video.



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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Thank you, Ockham, for answering him.

    Although I'm not quite sure why it needed to be answered by either of us. Thought it was pretty self-explanatory.
    Ockam was cordial enough to explain what he meant. I expect that from, but not so much from other folks. ;-)
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    As a Vet, it is wrong and I still couldn't care less. It isn't a criminal act.
    It is not like he is falsely receiving Veteran benefits from the Gov.

    And no, at the time of the video (learning differently later) the guy didn't prove that he wasn't a vet, only that he may be misrepresenting his actual awards.
    For all we knew at that point is he could have been a disabled Veteran that lost his ability to think rationally in some areas, and as such, engages in embellishment of his actual achievements.
    Frankly, if that had been the case I would be more pissed off at the guy taking the video.

    And to all you crying over this: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
    I'm not crying...but I am disgusted. According to USA Today, there is no record of Yetman ever serving. (Also according to this newspaper, nobody has been prosecuted yet under the 2013 law. Perhaps Yetman will be the first.)

    Yetman isn't man enough to have served in law enforcement or the military, but he certainly has invested time in his invented narrative of service. Imitating is one thing; posing--misrepresenting oneself, possibly for financial gain, is another.

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I wore the uniform from 1970 to 1974 and was never spat on or called a baby killer. That doesn't mean it never happened but I don't believe it was that wide spread.
    I think the number who were spat on probably equals the number of military members now days who get free houses and free cars.

    You seem to have a ax to grind about our current military members for some reason. Yes, in some ways they may have things better than us who served during the Vietnam era as I am certain I had it better than those who served in WW1.
    So what?
    So because you never saw anybody get spat on, that means it didn't happen? I'm sure that you must be right. My husband, who served from 1967 to 1992, must be lying.

    I have no ax to grind, other than the fact that Vietnam vets were treated like ****, and today's vets are not, even though they were all involved in wars that we shouldn't have been involved in.
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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ockam was cordial enough to explain what he meant. I expect that from, but not so much from other folks. ;-)
    So... I needed to explain myself when I said a 17 year old Old Navy clerk wouldn't understand that a military ID was a part of the uniform? You need it spelled out that much for you?

    I'll speak more slowly, so even you can understand.

    A...... 17....... year....... old........ would...... not...... understand...... that........ a...... military....... ID........ card....... is..... part....... of........ a........ military....... uniform.

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Kind of makes me think about the level of privilege soldiers have in our culture's iconography, and how impersonating that is some kind of sacrilege.

    We shouldn't venerate all soldiers. Some people use the military to get through college, and they get nice cushy jobs in the military -- no self-sacrifice required. I don't really view those people with the same level of esteem as someone who fought in a war zone and saw their friends die. But they seem to receive a sort of carte blanche kind of pride, regardless of what they did.

    People shouldn't impersonate someone in the military, anymore than they should impersonate a cop or someone in government. On the other hand, I don't think upper class people who get high ranks in the military and basically do nothing should get my respect either.
    I have great level respect for all who take the oath and serve honorably. Combat arms or not. There is a level of risk no matter how cushy a job you may think some soldiers have. An active soldier knows that he or she could be sent anywhere at anytime if all hell breaks loose. One of my co-workers was a Marine reservist. There was no war going on when he enlisted. However he ended up doing two tours in Iraq. On the second one, he got his left arm blown off. One of the reasons he joined was to put himself through college. Ofcourse those who serve in combat need and should get more healthcare and disability benefits. However we should not be putting down those who serve in a support role away from the battlefield.

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

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    Re: Fake veteran called out by actual soldier may face federal charges

    I agree with almost all of your sentiments expressed here, except one:

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Some people use the military to get through college, and they get nice cushy jobs in the military -- no self-sacrifice required. I don't really view those people with the same level of esteem as someone who fought in a war zone and saw their friends die. But they seem to receive a sort of carte blanche kind of pride, regardless of what they did.
    What is a "cushy job"? And how does someone go about getting it? Do these jobs not have to attend basic training? Is there such a thing as a military job that will *never* deploy? (There isn't.)

    As a veteran, I get annoyed when people thank me for my service. I literally didn't do it for them. I'll take a free appetizer at Applebee's once a year, whatever. But to intone there is such a thing as "an easy job" in any branch of the military, that is simply false. There are tough jobs, and there are really tough jobs, but the service itself can be soul crushing.

    I was an aviator. I heard (and caused) a lot of death on a radio. But it did it "over there," and just being away from home for six or nine months, stuck in a room or an airplane with people you may really love or really hate, without a day off from them or from work, and then an abrupt transition back to home life... that's tough on anyone, whether you're kicking in doors or pushing paper in the finance office. Nobody shot at me, but the fear of death followed me up in the sky every single day for months at a time. And to some, I had a "cushy job".
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