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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Can you point to the law that made that hold illegal?
    After this many days would an honest person use that term?


    Check with the New York Police Department, It's their rule that we're talking about.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Given the amount of "resisting" he was doing (virtually none), it was clearly excessive.

    Watch the video again. The officer who put him in the choke hold did so from behind, where Garner couldn't see him, and he was dogpiled by four other officers.
    A very large man was swiftly taken to the ground after he resisted arrest. There was no excessive force. It is a figment of your imagination. It was force sufficient to bring a very large man under control before he could hurt anyone around him or even hurt himself.

    He died because he had abused his body for a couple of decades. Garner was the only one who is responsible for his unfortunate death. He is the only one who knew just how screwed up he was.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Check with the New York Police Department, It's their rule that we're talking about.
    Then you are a liar. And worse, you know you are a liar. Breaking a police policy is not the same as breaking a law. And by now you know it.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I haven't seen how many times he was nabbed for "resisting arrest" before, but it definitely wasn't 30.

    That said, his prior rap sheet has no bearing on whether the police used excessive force in subduing him, which I think it's plainly obvious they did.


    I don't believe that rap sheet will keep the city and/or the cops from losing the $75 million dollar lawsuit that Garners family has filed.

    The city will be paying a lot of cash out to that family.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Then you are a liar. And worse, you know you are a liar.
    Breaking a police policy is not the same as breaking a law.
    And by now you know it.


    Tell that to the court when the families lawsuit goes to trial.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    A very large man was swiftly taken to the ground after he resisted arrest. There was no excessive force. It is a figment of your imagination. It was force sufficient to bring a very large man under control before he could hurt anyone around him or even hurt himself.
    That this man was "resisting arrest" to a level that five officers had to subdue him is a figment of YOUR imagination. His level of resistance was token at best. At no point were any officers in danger.

    "Resisting arrest" does not give carte blanche to police to use however much force they feel like using. Jumping in with a chokehold -- a move that is banned by the NYPD -- is excessive force. Piling 600+ pounds of police officer on the man's chest is excessive force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    He died because he had abused his body for a couple of decades. Garner was the only one who is responsible for his unfortunate death. He is the only one who knew just how screwed up he was.
    Not according to the coroner, he wasn't. I'll take the coroner's assessment over that of some guy on the internet who constantly screeches about tyranny, yet rushes to defend agents of the state killing someone on a sidewalk.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Check with the New York Police Department, It's their rule that we're talking about.
    The NYPD is just using coercive force to restrict the freedoms of their officers to kill suspects deemed not physically fit enough to survive resisting arrest. Tyranny! Thanks, Obama!
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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Tell that to the court when the families lawsuit goes to trial.
    Whether or not some family wins a lottery is beside the point. You are a liar. I know that now and will adjust my behavior toward you accordingly.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That this man was "resisting arrest" to a level that five officers had to subdue him is a figment of YOUR imagination. His level of resistance was token at best. At no point were any officers in danger.
    Once he began to resist arrest what do you believe should have happened?

    "Resisting arrest" does not give carte blanche to police to use however much force they feel like using. Jumping in with a chokehold -- a move that is banned by the NYPD -- is excessive force. Piling 600+ pounds of police officer on the man's chest is excessive force.
    I saw a very big man go to the ground in about ten seconds. That sounds perfect to me. No one got hurt and he was under control in about three minutes. This seems like the right amount of force to use to get control of a situation before it could get out of control. A police sergeant was present and did not stop it.

    "He died because he had abused his body for a couple of decades. Garner was the only one who is responsible for his unfortunate death. He is the only one who knew just how screwed up he was."

    Not according to the coroner, he wasn't. I'll take the coroner's assessment over that of some guy on the internet who constantly screeches about tyranny, yet rushes to defend agents of the state killing someone on a sidewalk.
    The coroner certainly has his say. A very fat, out of shape, and in very bad health man chose suicide by cop by resisting arrest. Heart disease killed Garner. Decades of too much food and too much drink set up the conditions.

    My defense is of the grand jury. I oppose the mob mentality and the lawlessness.

    The police officer will have his moment but not because of a crime. He violated a police policy. Given that it ended with a death I doubt it will go well for him.

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    Re: Critics Rip Rucker For Performing 'White Christmas' After Garner Decision

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The coroner certainly has his say. A very fat, out of shape, and in very bad health man chose suicide by cop by resisting arrest. Heart disease killed Garner. Decades of too much food and too much drink set up the conditions.

    My defense is of the grand jury. I oppose the mob mentality and the lawlessness.

    The police officer will have his moment but not because of a crime. He violated a police policy. Given that it ended with a death I doubt it will go well for him.
    Wait ... you're saying Garner CHOSE to die? "Suicide by cop" means you are intentionally getting yourself killed by police.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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