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    Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    WASHINGTON—When 24-year-old Albert Jermaine Payton wielded a knife in front of the police in this city’s southeast corner, officers opened fire and killed him.Yet according to national statistics intended to track police killings, Mr. Payton’s death in August 2012 never happened. It is one of hundreds of homicides by law-enforcement agencies between 2007 and 2012 that aren’t included in records kept by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
    A Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest data from 105 of the country’s largest police agencies found more than 550 police killings during those years were missing from the national tally or, in a few dozen cases, not attributed to the agency involved. The result: It is nearly impossible to determine how many people are killed by the police each year.


    Public demands for transparency on such killings have increased since the August shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police in Ferguson, Mo. The Ferguson Police Department has reported to the FBI one justifiable homicide by police between 1976 and 2012.
    Law-enforcement experts long have lamented the lack of information about killings by police. “When cops are killed, there is a very careful account and there’s a national database,” said Jeffrey Fagan, a law professor at Columbia University. “Why not the other side of the ledger?”
    Police can use data about killings to improve tactics, particularly when dealing with people who are mentally ill, said Paco Balderrama, a spokesman for the Oklahoma City Police Department. “It’s great to recognize that, because 30 years ago we used to not do that. We used to just show up and handle the situation.”


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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Some people just need killin'.

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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    So basically Obama and Holder are just talking out their asses about cases like Brown and Martin being endemic of racism in American justice; because they don't even have the data to prove it.
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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Some people just need killin'.
    And some people just need mental health care, and there is a lot of overlap between the two groups.

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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So basically Obama and Holder are just talking out their asses about cases like Brown and Martin being endemic of racism in American justice; because they don't even have the data to prove it.
    Your right. The number should be a lot higher since hundreds go unreported.


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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Your right. The number should be a lot higher since hundreds go unreported.
    If they're going unreported, how do they know how many there are?
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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If they're going unreported, how do they know how many there are?
    From the OP itself:

    "It is one of hundreds of homicides by law-enforcement agencies between 2007 and 2012 that aren’t included in records kept by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. A Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest data from 105 of the country’s largest police agencies found more than 550 police killings during those years were missing from the national tally or, in a few dozen cases, not attributed to the agency involved. The result: It is nearly impossible to determine how many people are killed by the police each year."
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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There are three degrees of homicides and these are the same for police shootings:

    1) Felonious: Like the shooting of Randy Weaver's wife by the FBI.

    2) Jusitifiable: As are the vast majority of shootings where the officer is defending himself from harm or death.

    3) Praiseworthy: With Michael Brown and any other scumbag thug that is removed from society to make it a better place.
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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    From the OP itself:

    "It is one of hundreds of homicides by law-enforcement agencies between 2007 and 2012 that aren’t included in records kept by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. A Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest data from 105 of the country’s largest police agencies found more than 550 police killings during those years were missing from the national tally or, in a few dozen cases, not attributed to the agency involved. The result: It is nearly impossible to determine how many people are killed by the police each year."
    How do they know there really are hundreds? Something sounds contradictory.
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    Re: Hundreds of Police Killings Are Uncounted in Federal Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Some people just need killin'.
    And why not do so with roaming bands of armed government goons. I'm sure that was the intent of the Founders. :roll
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