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Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Finger

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SouthernDemocrat said:
Among the scientifically illiterate, no it isn't settled. However, in science, yes it certainly is. Evolution is one of the 2 foundational laws of all of biology.

The 2 fundimental laws of Biology are:

1. All of the phenomena of biology, the entities and the processes, are ultimately obedient to the laws of physics and chemistry. Not immediately reducible to them, but ultimately consistent and in consilience with them, by a cause and effect explanation.

2. All biological phenomena, these entities and processes that define life itself, have arisen by evolution through natural selection.

Basically this means that there is nothing magical about you, no supernatural explanation for how we came into existence or how the earth came to be a planet that teams with an amazing diversity of life.



Unfortunately, no one is shocked at the notion that in the 21st century there are still a decent number of people out there that are so ignorant of the life sciences to honestly believe that creation is an alternative theory to evolution.
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Which goes back to what I said, this thread is about nothing more/different/novel than bashing religious beliefs.
 
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X Factor said:
So you gonna call that out as well? You didn't answer that.



Look, according to Genesis, God created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam's rib. You'd find anyone who believed that stupid/ignorant, right? I really just want you to say what you want to say. Just let the words fall out. Honestly, I want to see you be brave.
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The bible ain't science.

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All this chatter and the evolution v creation thing had nothing whatsoever to do with this idiot's suspension. He shamed an obviously more popular coworker on a public forum. He didn't need to, but he couldn't keep his lip buttoned, he had to let the entire world know he was right and crush his opponent beneath his heel. Gotta love the hyper educated moron.
 
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X Factor said:
Which goes back to what I said, this thread is about nothing more/different/novel than bashing religious beliefs.
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Science does not bash religion. Science is completely agnostic when it comes to religion. If you believe that you were created by God then that is a belief based in faith, not science. As such, it is a question for religion, not science. Science only deals with the natural world.

That all said, personally I look at creationists like I do my Vizsla. Our Vizsla is quite smart. He is about as clever of a dog that you will ever find. However, just like creationists, he doesn't understand science very well at all.
 
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clownboy said:
All this chatter and the evolution v creation thing had nothing whatsoever to do with this idiot's suspension. He shamed an obviously more popular coworker on a public forum. He didn't need to, but he couldn't keep his lip buttoned, he had to let the entire world know he was right and crush his opponent beneath his heel. Gotta love the hyper educated moron.
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Education..bad!

Fire...bad!

Knowledge..bad!
 
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beefheart said:
The bible ain't science.

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Don't you get it? After the water's receded from the Great Flood, Noah's Ark landed on Mount Ararat. At that point, kangaroos hopped all the way across Asia before making the swim to Australia. God then created 11 species a day, and hundreds of species of plants an hour, every day, from then until the advent of Darwin's satanic notion that life actually evolved through natural selection.

And they get mad when we ridicule them. You know, when adults still believe in the tooth fairy they tend to be ridiculed as well. Its not just atheists that ridicule creationists either, its probably half the world's Christians that think they are ignorant as well.
 
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X Factor said:
Which goes back to what I said, this thread is about nothing more/different/novel than bashing religious beliefs.
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It's not bashing religion to point out scientific facts. Those scientific facts do not require God to exist, but they also do not contradict his existence.

If you are bothered by this anyway, well, that's your problem. But hey, if you want to validate your victim complex by lashing out at anyone who doesn't like your beliefs, that's your prerogative. Lots of people don't like what I believe, but I really don't care what they think. You also don't see me going around and claiming "THIS WHOLE THREAD JUST EXISTS TO BASH LIBERALS" every single time some random-ass conservative bashes liberals.
 
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beefheart said:
Education..bad!

Fire...bad!

Knowledge..bad!
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Whatever works for you. Me, I'm in my heated house looking at my diplomas.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Don't you get it? After the water's receded from the Great Flood, Noah's Ark landed on Mount Ararat. At that point, kangaroos hopped all the way across Asia before making the swim to Australia. God then created 11 species a day, and hundreds of species of plants an hour, every day, from then until the advent of Darwin's satanic notion that life actually evolved through natural selection.

And they get mad when we ridicule them. You know, when adults still believe in the tooth fairy they tend to be ridiculed as well. Its not just atheists that ridicule creationists either, its probably half the world's Christians that think they are ignorant as well.
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Of course they get mad, they can't have their beliefs, however illogical and non rational be questioned, because they need the security of their belief. If their beliefs are disproved, they think they can't function. But, guess what? It is easy to accept scientific fact and live in the real world, it gives you a clear mind!
 
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clownboy said:
Whatever works for you. Me, I'm in my heated house looking at my diplomas.
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I'm in a house that needs no heat...and I have my diplomas up on the shelf, I don't need to look at them...I earned them.
 
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beefheart said:
I'm in a house that needs no heat...and I have my diplomas up on the shelf, I don't need to look at them...I earned them.
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Good boy! Now get yourself a treat, Now what does this have to do with what I wrote? Are you hurt because I called him an hyper educated moron? If you earned those diplomas as you say you'd have to have met a few in your time.
 
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clownboy said:
All this chatter and the evolution v creation thing had nothing whatsoever to do with this idiot's suspension. He shamed an obviously more popular coworker on a public forum. He didn't need to, but he couldn't keep his lip buttoned, he had to let the entire world know he was right and crush his opponent beneath his heel. Gotta love the hyper educated moron.
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If Bernie Madoff made an hour long infomercial about the greatness of his investment planning, and you, as his co-worker, knew it was a pyramid scheme wouldn't you call him out?
Curt Schilling is a public figure. He made an hour long Twitter rant about things religious versus science. He should stick to fastballs because he didn't learn **** in science classes. He probably thinks a god curves his throws in answer to pre-pitch prayers, ffs!

If he says stupid things like "why are there still monkeys?" or some facsimile thereof, he deserves the ridicule, irrespective of who does the ridiculing. His co-worker had the balls to set him down.
Bear in mind Curt probably has been vocal amongst colleagues way before this Twitter diarrhea episode. Amongst colleagues, who gives a flying fornication. You just smile and nod and slowly back away. But when he goes public via Twitter to 100 000 followers and all their retweets? Oh Hell No.

Curt Schilling Has Disproved Evolution

Curt's proof:
 
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You know what is really insulting? How every time creationists get challenged and ridiculed for their beliefs they respond by claiming atheists and liberals are attacking Christians…… As if all Christians are as stupid as they are. By making such assertions creationists are saying the world's 2 billion Christians are all as ignorant of science and modernity in general as they are. That is about as insulting to Christianity as it gets, particularly when you consider that literal creationism is a minority view in Christianity.
 
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clownboy said:
Good boy! Now get yourself a treat, Now what does this have to do with what I wrote? Are you hurt because I called him an hyper educated moron? If you earned those diplomas as you say you'd have to have met a few in your time.
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What does what you wrote have to do with anything?

Trust me, no one is hurt by anything you do...LOL

You are the one bragging about your diplomas, and if you are a creationist, then those diplomas aren't worth the breakfast cereal boxes they were printed on.
 
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X Factor said:
Do you think believing in a creator makes one a moron?
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No. I don't believe a person's faith or lack of faith has any bearing on his/her intelligence.
 
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X Factor said:
The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop" (Dr. Edwin Conklin, evolutionist and professor of biology at Princeton University).
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There is nothing like quoting a zoologist who was last in the classroom in 1908.

That is like asking the Wright Bros. the probability of landing a space craft on an orbiting asteroid...
 
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donsutherland1 said:
No. I don't believe a person's faith or lack of faith has any bearing on his/her intelligence.
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Thank you for actually answering. Your reply was pretty much what I expected from you.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
You know what is really insulting? How every time creationists get challenged and ridiculed for their beliefs they respond by claiming atheists and liberals are attacking Christians…… As if all Christians are as stupid as they are. By making such assertions creationists are saying the world's 2 billion Christians are all as ignorant of science and modernity in general as they are. That is about as insulting to Christianity as it gets, particularly when you consider that literal creationism is a minority view in Christianity.
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I'm trying to think of someone I'd trust least to stand up for Christianity.* Please don't do us any favors. Most Christians do believe that God is the creator and you've just said it yourself, creationist = stupid.

The thing is, if you think believing God is the creator is stupid, what other Christian beliefs must you believe stupid? Any problem with the virgin birth? All the miracles Jesus performed? Walking on water? Calming a storm? The Resurrection?

How many times have I heard Jesus referred to as a zombie? To claim there is no atheist antagonism toward Christianity might be the funniest thing I've seen. I am curious about why you all just don't want to own it. Surely the thoughts and opinions of any believer can't matter to you.

Edit: *ok, Hatuey's in the thread. There is someone I would trust less. :lol:
 
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X Factor said:
I'm trying to think of someone I'd trust least to stand up for Christianity.* Please don't do us any favors. Most Christians do believe that God is the creator and you've just said it yourself, creationist = stupid.

The thing is, if you think believing God is the creator is stupid, what other Christian beliefs must you believe stupid? Any problem with the virgin birth? All the miracles Jesus performed? Walking on water? Calming a storm? The Resurrection?

How many times have I heard Jesus referred to as a zombie? To claim there is no atheist antagonism toward Christianity might be the funniest thing I've seen. I am curious about why you all just don't want to own it. Surely the thoughts and opinions of any believer can't matter to you.

Edit: *ok, Hatuey's in the thread. There is someone I would trust less. :lol:
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Says the guy who posted a quote by a deeply devout Christian scientist from 70+ years ago as a counter argument for evolution, and then tried to pass off the guy as an evolutionist. It's such a shame about 4 members called you out on that particular line of nonsense and then dropped the argument.
 
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Hatuey said:
Says the guy who posted a quote by a deeply devout Christian scientist from 70+ years ago as a counter argument for evolution, and then tried to pass off the guy as an evolutionist. It's such a shame about 4 members called you out on that particular line of nonsense and then dropped the argument.
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See this is what's bizarre. Some of you are saying that a creator is inconsistent with evolution, some of you are saying it isn't. Which is it?

Does believing evolution as fact preclude belief in a creator?

Now run along X, you don't get promoted from DM to Mod by name dropping.
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What? I wouldn'the consider that a promotion, but I will agree that dropping your name around here would not be of much benefit to me.
 
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X Factor said:
See this is what's bizarre. Some of you are saying that a creator is inconsistent with evolution, some of you are saying it isn't. Which is it?

Does believing evolution as fact preclude belief in a creator?
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Keep digging that hole, buddy. Tell us again how Dr. Edwin Conklin, whose work you seem to be so familiar with, was an evolutionist. I'll wait. Here, I'll help you out:

http://etcweb.princeton.edu/CampusWWW/Companion/conklin_edwin_grant.html

A deeply religious man, Conklin was much concerned with the relations between science, ethics, and religion, a subject on which he wrote several books, published numerous magazine articles, and gave many speeches. Conklin believed that scientific evidence of man's animal ancestry need not undermine religious faith or belief in human dignity. ``The real dignity of man,'' he once wrote, ``consists not in his origin but in what he is and in what he may become.'' Perhaps the most conclusive statement of his point of view is found among the last words of his brief, posthumously published ``spiritual autobiography'': ``No one can furnish scientific proof of the existence or nature of a divine plan in the fulfillment of which men may cooperate, but it is evident that such an ideal lends strength and courage to mortal men.''
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Or did you realize you got caught talking out of the side of your mouth and now don't want to address it? The best part is that you actually thought nobody was going to look that 70 year old quote up. ;)
 
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X Factor said:
Does believing evolution as fact preclude belief in a creator?
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Not necessarily, I want to draw an important distinction for many people who do not understand evolution, pro evolution or anti.

Evolution does not attempt to answer the question of how the universe came to be.

What it does explain is how the current bio-diversity came to be through changes in inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

Does evolution preclude the idea that there could be a creator of some kind... not really.

Does it put in doubt the biblical account of a creator... more so yes.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Not necessarily, I want to draw an important distinction for many people who do not understand evolution, pro evolution or anti.

Evolution does not attempt to answer the question of how the universe came to be.

What it does explain is how the current bio-diversity came to be through changes in inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

Does evolution preclude the idea that there could be a creator of some kind... not really.

Does it put in doubt the biblical account of a creator... more so yes.
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And if I still believe the God of the Bible is the Creator, what would you say about my beliefs?
 
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Hatuey said:
Keep digging that hole, buddy. Tell us again how Dr. Edwin Conklin, whose work you seem to be so familiar with, was an evolutionist. I'll wait. Here, I'll help you out:

Conklin, Edwin Grant



Or did you realize you got caught talking out of the side of your mouth and now don't want to address it? The best part is that you actually thought nobody was going to look that 70 year old quote up. ;)
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Actually, isn't that quote saying pretty much what some of you are arguing in this thread, that evolution need not be inconsistent with a creator?

Of course, earlier it was denied that he even said it. If you all could make up your mind, that's be great.
 
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X Factor said:
Actually, isn't that quote saying pretty much what some of you are arguing in this thread, that evolution need not be inconsistent with a creator?
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Doubling down on the dishonesty, I see. Conklin is not saying evolution need not be inconsistent with a creator. What he is saying is that evolution is highly unlikely. Which, considering his Christian beliefs, is not a shocking a position for him to take.

Of course, earlier it was denied that he even said it. If you all could make up your mind, that's be great.
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Keep digging X Factor, I haven't even discussed evolution in this thread. I haven't even discussed what others have said on it. I discussed your quote and the pathetic lie you came up with in order to make yourself seem educated on this subject.

Now tell us again: What relevance do the words of a Christian biologist from 70+ years ago, have on this discussion?
 
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