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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You get a like from me (cherish it) for not mincing or trying to spin away from what you've been saying or claiming to have the only possible definition of "creationism"
    out there.
    It's not the "only possible" definition. It's just the one people are using here. People use the term "creationist" in a context like this to refer to Young Earth Creationism, not any and all forms of religion.

    I hope this clears it up for you. I'm sure you now understand when somebody says creationism is wrong, they don't mean any version of it you can conceive of, but rather a specific version of it.
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Anyone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that He died for our sins and that we are saved through our faith/belief in Him is a Christian.
    Do you actually believe that when your interpretation causes Jesus Christ to become the Greatest Liar of All Time? How can we believe anything about Christianity when an interpretation of Genesis dictates that God is a liar and has been a liar from day one? The notion of acceptance of Christ as our Savior relies on a level of trust in Christ. YEC eliminates that trust by dictating that God is not trustworthy and has lied from the very beginning in the very first Book of the Bible. How can someone be a a Christian on your criteria when the very requirement for faith, trust, no longer exists? I don't think you will even try to answer this.

    It's funny how the people most hostile and enraged by religion seem to think they're the authority on what someone's "true beliefs" should be.
    Since when did my rejection of an interpretation = enraged by religion?

    I noticed you are refusing to name a single piece of non-propaganda commercial product that Creationism helps make. Why is that? You know full well that I will keep bringing up challenges that get ignored as form of open mockery about my opponent's inability to produce an argument. Why would you actively bring that upon yourself?
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    ID is creationism.
    It's simpler than that. Intelligent Design is Animism. The only thing that got changed is replacing Animism's spirits with an unnamed Creator. Basically, both ID and Animism is "I don't know, therefore Magic."

    Most people have long given up that the rains are caused by the rain gods, that lightning is caused by Zeus and that the praying to a fertility God will bring you children, but there's really no difference between Animism and Intelligent Design. It's exceptionally hypocritical for someone to believe in ID at the same time accepting the science behind why we're going to have rainstorms in a few days.
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Watching X-Factor slink away from his first post in this thread is slightly satisfying. He lied about Dr. Edwin Conklin's position as an 'evolutionist'. He tried really hard to attribute the statements of others to my posts. Then he couldn't answer what his quote had to do with the issue. Then he got school on just which Christians accepted evolution. Then mbig called him out for engaging in further dishonest and trying to get people to insult his view. You gotta love just how his arguments have been bludgeoned to death but I'm not one to really enjoy jumping on people who don't know their stuff. So I'll bid you all adieu and observe as some of you demolishing X's uninformed statements.

    I haven't got a reply as to a single piece of non-media propaganda that creationism helps produce. I asked him to provide one. I haven't gotten a reply yet.
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    [QUOTE=X Factor;1064035018]The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop" (Dr. Edwin Conklin, evolutionist and professor of biology at Princeton University).[/QUOTE

    I suspect that many of us were results of "accidents".
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually no. I don't think someone is a moron or unintelligent for their religious beliefs. Obviously I understand taking things on faith.
    So you'd think that regardless of what actual beliefs they had?

    Something (beyond the fact that you've been wildly dishonest this entire thread) tells me you're not being honest here.
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You know what is really insulting? How every time creationists get challenged and ridiculed for their beliefs they respond by claiming atheists and liberals are attacking Christians…… As if all Christians are as stupid as they are. By making such assertions creationists are saying the world's 2 billion Christians are all as ignorant of science and modernity in general as they are. That is about as insulting to Christianity as it gets, particularly when you consider that literal creationism is a minority view in Christianity.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's funny how the people most hostile and enraged by religion seem to think they're the authority on what someone's "true beliefs" should be.
    Or posts that argue that if you reject an interpretation of one part of a Religion, that makes you "hostile and enraged by religion."

    I point out how YEC creates a theological problem resulting from a literal interpretation of creation so large with the trustworthiness of God that it renders all beliefs about him suspect and somehow I now an hostile to all religion? I explicitly called YEC believers not Christian BECAUSE of that problem as it invalidates the very foundation of Christianity: trust in Christ.

    Seriously, could X Factor be more dishonest?
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop" (Dr. Edwin Conklin, evolutionist and professor of biology at Princeton University).
    I suspect that many of us were results of "accidents".
    Beyond the fact that the quote was modified by dishonest creationists, it's a gross failure to understand chemical reactions, complexity and time.

    Dishonest Creationists like to argue that rolling a single die to get a series of numbers is incredibly hard. What they fail to realize is that if you roll a billion dice a second for a million years, you are virtually guaranteed to get that sequence. In a single cubic foot of soil, trillions of chemical reactions are happening. That quote only works on idiots who don't understand the basics of science.
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's not the "only possible" definition. It's just the one people are using here. People use the term "creationist" in a context like this to refer to Young Earth Creationism, not any and all forms of religion.

    I hope this clears it up for you. I'm sure you now understand when somebody says creationism is wrong, they don't mean any version of it you can conceive of, but rather a specific version of it.
    Right, the biblical version.
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