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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually no. I don't think someone is a moron or unintelligent for their religious beliefs. Obviously I understand taking things on faith.
    Not what he said, which is a pretty consistent theme for you in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually no. I don't think someone is a moron or unintelligent for their religious beliefs. Obviously I understand taking things on faith.
    There's taking something "on faith" and there's willfully clinging to something that is provably false. The Earth isn't flat, and if someone believes otherwise they aren't faithful, they're wrong.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Not what he said, which is a pretty consistent theme for you in this thread.
    He didn't ask me if I'd think someone was dumb if they believed the earth to be flat on religious grounds?
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    He didn't ask me if I'd think someone was dumb if they believed the earth to be flat on religious grounds?
    Do you believe someone is dumb for believing the earth is flat for religious reasons? If your answer doesn't contain the "believing the earth is flat" part then you're not answering the question.

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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    He didn't ask me if I'd think someone was dumb if they believed the earth to be flat on religious grounds?
    Your response was intentionally vague. Over and over in this thread, you are willfully deceptive. Your God would be ashamed.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No offense taken, I actually appreciate the straight reply. What's funny is people saying, "not all Christians are idiots, just the ones who believe God is the creator."
    No one is saying that. What everyone, including myself, is arguing is that creationists are ignorant. Most Christian denominations are not literal creationists, they instead accept theistic evolution which basically means that evolution is how all life, including us humans, came to exist. However, evolution from a theistic perspective argues that evolution is a natural law (which it is), just like gravity, or any other law that governs the physical universe, and all those laws are products of God.

    You have been quite obtuse relative to your own beliefs, are you a creationist, or do you accept theistic evolution, or are not religious at all and simply accept evolution?
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    While I am at it, earlier in the thread there was a comparison made between being a creationist and the belief in events such as the virgin birth or the resurrection. That is a highly flawed comparison.

    Let's look at the case of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ: There is no physical evidence at all to support the event the resurrection ever occurred. However, at the same time, there is no evidence against it ever occurring other than the fact that if it did occur it would have had to be a miraculous event as it would violate known physical laws. Thus in the end, the belief in the resurrection is purely a question of faith.

    Now, lets look creationism. In the case of creationism, not only is there not one shred of physical evidence supporting the notion, there is mountains of empirical evidence that clearly demonstrates creationism is pure myth. Your genome, the fossil record, the age of the earth, laws of physics and chemistry, basically all of modern science disproves the notion of creationism. So a belief in literal creationism is not just a question of faith, it is the height of ignorance.
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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Personally, I think, if ancient mankind had the ability to record events with a deeper understanding in physics, language and had the freedoms to do so, it would be much easier today to reconcile religious history and science. In fact, one could possibly compliment the other.

    There is a lot of ancient history recorded with poetic license. Analogies given, for lack of understanding, seemed to be an effective means to communicate back then. How could they explain even if they did know the scientific terminology? The people wouldn't have understood.

    Then, as we evolved as a species, we learned the planet was round, among a plethora of other factual tid-bits, and that put religion in a suspicious light.

    Sometime, in our distant past, something phenomenal happened. The people called it miracles and gods. They were primitive, at best. They did the best they could.

    I think it could all be explained, and eventually might be, using fact and specifics. And if that day ever happened, I am reasonably certain that what we call "God," was not at all what we conceived "Him," to be.

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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Personally, I think, if ancient mankind had the ability to record events with a deeper understanding in physics, language and had the freedoms to do so, it would be much easier today to reconcile religious history and science. In fact, one could possibly compliment the other.

    There is a lot of ancient history recorded with poetic license. Analogies given, for lack of understanding, seemed to be an effective means to communicate back then. How could they explain even if they did know the scientific terminology? The people wouldn't have understood.

    Then, as we evolved as a species, we learned the planet was round, among a plethora of other factual tid-bits, and that put religion in a suspicious light.

    Sometime, in our distant past, something phenomenal happened. The people called it miracles and gods. They were primitive, at best. They did the best they could.

    I think it could all be explained, and eventually might be, using fact and specifics. And if that day ever happened, I am reasonably certain that what we call "God," was not at all what we conceived "Him," to be.
    If I were God, and I were trying to give a set of new rules to a bunch of squabbling apes I'd made, I'd probably skip the whole bits about nuclear fusion and gravitational formation of planets and DNA changing over billions of years. Because they're basically just apes, killing each other with pointy sticks. They're not going to understand what the hell I'm talking about, and the more important part is stop poking each other with the pointy sticks already. So I'd use metaphors. They'll get that, and figure out the rest on their own.

    Trouble is, the apes have figured out more of the actual details now but some of them can't get away from the metaphors. Oh well. Free will and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Reporter Suspended For Defending Evolution Comes Back, Gives Immediate Middle Fin

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Well, yeah, expressing views that ask questions that have long since been answered. He asked why there are still monkeys... that's a stupid question. He should read about evolution before he opens his damn mouth on the subject.s
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