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    Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    One in three Americans has put off seeking medical treatment in 2014 due to high costs, according to Gallup — the highest percentage since Gallup began asking the question in 2001.

    Thirty-three percent of Americans have delayed medical treatment for themselves or their families because of the costs they’d have to pay...

    The hardest-hit: the middle-class. Americans with an annual household income of between $30,000 and $75,000 began delaying medical care over costs more in 2014, up to 38 percent...

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/28/gallup-peak-number-of-americans-delaying-medical-care-over-costs/
    Obama/Gruber and their... ahem... "base" strike again.

    Whenever government sticks its fingers into the free market in an aggressive manner you get higher costs, poorer and slower service. When will the Gruberites learn? Posts in the past weeks have revealed... never.

    And King Obamaramadingdong has delayed a lot of the pain...

    I tell ya, Nancy... it sure was great to have to wait after the bill was passed to see what was in it. I can't wait until Tea Party Republicans do the same... putting the Federal government beast back in the little box it's supposed to be in.
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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    How many people in the top 1% had to delay any medical procedures?

    Fill us in.





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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How many people in the top 1% had to delay any medical procedures?

    Fill us in.





    because American health care only recently became overpriced, lol.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Reading the actual question is key. The title is so ridiculously misleading. "Within the 12 months, have you or a family member put off ANY sort of medical treatment due to costs?"

    Well yes, my 3rd cousin twice removed put off her $30k lyposuction that medicaid expansion and no insurer would ever cover anyway. Notice even 22% with insurance answered yes

    What a useless poll
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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Obama/Gruber and their... ahem... "base" strike again.

    Whenever government sticks its fingers into the free market in an aggressive manner you get higher costs, poorer and slower service. When will the Gruberites learn? Posts in the past weeks have revealed... never.

    And King Obamaramadingdong has delayed a lot of the pain...

    I tell ya, Nancy... it sure was great to have to wait after the bill was passed to see what was in it. I can't wait until Tea Party Republicans do the same... putting the Federal government beast back in the little box it's supposed to be in.
    This is not an indictment of Obama care, as much as you want it to be. It is an indictment of the high cost of our healthcare system. Obamacare was first about expanding healthcare coverage (which it has done) and second, about containing costs (which there is some evidence that this is happening, but its too early to know). Prior to Obamacare, our healthcare system was the most expensive and one of the less effective in first world. The PPACA, given that it was more of an insurance mandate than healthcare reform (nothing really changed in the delivery system), is not likely to change that.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    yes, because medical care was so reasonably priced prior to Obamacare
    what a stupid thread premise
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Reading the actual question is key. The title is so ridiculously misleading. "Within the 12 months, have you or a family member put off ANY sort of medical treatment due to costs?"

    Well yes, my 3rd cousin twice removed put off her $30k lyposuction that medicaid expansion and no insurer would ever cover anyway. Notice even 22% with insurance answered yes

    What a useless poll
    Not useless, but certainly not precise. My guess is part of the thinking wasn't just cost being "my co-pay" but also "...and I would be out of work which I cannot afford to do" for some of the respondents. The PPACA is a bad set up. I blame the democrats who enacted the thing moreso than the GOP for not coming up with something better than this albatross around the neck of the progressive cause. It is more a corporate subsidy than anything else IMO.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    This is not an indictment of Obama care, as much as you want it to be. It is an indictment of the high cost of our healthcare system. Obamacare was first about expanding healthcare coverage (which it has done) and second, about containing costs (which there is some evidence that this is happening, but its too early to know). Prior to Obamacare, our healthcare system was the most expensive and one of the less effective in first world. The PPACA, given that it was more of an insurance mandate than healthcare reform (nothing really changed in the delivery system), is not likely to change that.
    It is an indictment of Obamacare, because the problem with American health care insurance prior to Obamacare was cost. And after Obamacare, the problem is still cost. Obamacare managed to take a bad system that worked for many people and mad it worse for everyone.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Not useless, but certainly not precise. My guess is part of the thinking wasn't just cost being "my co-pay" but also "...and I would be out of work which I cannot afford to do" for some of the respondents. The PPACA is a bad set up. I blame the democrats who enacted the thing moreso than the GOP for not coming up with something better than this albatross around the neck of the progressive cause. It is more a corporate subsidy than anything else IMO.
    Indeed, progressive would be to end the for-profit model altogether and enact mandatory sick leave for serious illness, as they have in europe. I agree that in the mind of the poll respondent, "can't afford" would include being unable to take time off work.

    The dems sought a political score like a decrease in # who have *no* insurance. Yes, medical bankruptcies should go down as well due to removing "preexisting condition" outrages, but in a for profit system, the cost of insurance will only go up in response. Add the individual mandate and what you have is simply corporate welfare with some medicaid expansion (which benefits the middle class not at all) as window dressing.

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    Re: Gallup: Peak Number of Americans Delaying Medical Care Over Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Indeed, progressive would be to end the for-profit model altogether and enact mandatory sick leave for serious illness, as they have in europe. I agree that in the mind of the poll respondent, "can't afford" would include being unable to take time off work.

    The dems sought a political score like a decrease in # who have *no* insurance. Yes, medical bankruptcies should go down as well due to removing "preexisting condition" outrages, but in a for profit system, the cost of insurance will only go up in response. Add the individual mandate and what you have is simply corporate welfare with some medicaid expansion (which benefits the middle class not at all) as window dressing.
    The problem is the failure of states to address these issues before now. those states that did nit expand medicaid really have no workable alternative on the table. There are far too many working poor people in the gap both at state level and at federal levels to try to do nothing. It is an injustice in my mind that we are subsidizing the insurance of someone making above the median household income but do nothing for those who fall in the gap between state medicaid eligibility and PPACA subsidy assistance floors. This should have never been allowed to happen (and that is on the democrats) and something needs to be done to fix it NOW (and that is on the GOP).

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