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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    they are replaceable for sure. EVERYONE is replaceable (one of the many truths i've learned in my career). how immediately replaceable they are remains to be seen. it depends on how many people decide to strike and in what locations. for instance in a more rural area, a walmart might have a much more difficult time finding replacement workers if 2/3 of the store decides not to show up.
    Well, how immediately you are replaceable depends on how much education and training is necessary to perform the job. If you are a Walmart stock clerk odds are your training is measured in hours, not years.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    It is of my opinion that, upon being offered employment, when they are told that they have to work holidays, they can't back out of it. It doesn't work that way. Every single one of these people are told, from the beginning, that they absolutely have to work on holidays. They have no choice. None. I used to be in retail management, and on every application, there are boxes that the applicant has to check, to say which holidays they will work. If all boxes weren't checked, I wouldn't even call them in for an interview.

    When they took the job, they knew they had to work on holidays. This is just an excuse for attention, and nothing more.

    I hope if they strike, they get fired.
    they're not allowed to change their minds? you think they should be physically forced to work since they already agree to do so? when you say "they can't back out of it" it sounds like you believe they should be physically forced to work.

    if they strike (which is their right in a free market), yes they can be fired (which is the employer's right in a free market). why do you hate the free market?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    When it is purposely at the expense of others for an item, yes it is. Now if you support that, be my guest that is your choice.
    At the expense of who, again? Because unless the Walmart employee is working for free it's certainly not at their expense.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    they're not allowed to change their minds? you think they should be physically forced to work since they already agree to do so? when you say "they can't back out of it" it sounds like you believe they should be physically forced to work.

    if they strike (which is their right in a free market), yes they can be fired (which is the employer's right in a free market). why do you hate the free market?
    Not to derail, but should law enforcement, firefighters, emergency responders, public works, etc. also have a right to change their minds and not work on Thanksgiving.

    If consumers would not shop on bird day, stores would not be open.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    At the expense of who, again? Because unless the Walmart employee is working for free it's certainly not at their expense.
    If that makes you sleep better at night excusing your greed, whatever dude.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    they're not allowed to change their minds? you think they should be physically forced to work since they already agree to do so? when you say "they can't back out of it" it sounds like you believe they should be physically forced to work.

    if they strike (which is their right in a free market), yes they can be fired (which is the employer's right in a free market). why do you hate the free market?
    Now where on Earth did she say let alone imply that she hates the free market in that post? Hint...nowhere.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    they should have organized their labor nationally years ago. the best way to prevent unions is to not treat your workers like ****.
    and this is precisely why unions are on the decline. most employers know that the best way to keep the union out is to keep workers from every wanting one in the first place. since the unions and labor movement in general were able to achieve so many successes in the 20th century, workers now do not usually see the need for them.

    that said, the only thing that could lead us back to the exploitation of the early industrial revolution would be if everyone began to believe we didn't need unions anymore, and that they should be outlawed. the THREAT of a union is just as powerful as powerful as a union itself, and if the threat goes away, then all of the rights workers enjoy in this country (such as overtime pay and other protections) would be in danger.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Come down to Georgia and shop with me. I'll even buy you a salted caramel machiatto at Starbucks when we hit Target.

    I have no problem shopping on Thanksgiving, or Black Friday. Most places don't start their sales until later in the day, so it's not like the workers didn't get to spend Thanksgiving with their families.
    I hate shopping anyway. I'm not a normal girl. I'll admit I'd rather chew out my left eyeball than fight crowds of shoppers, but I support the right of consenting adults to do whatever the hell they choose to do.

    By the way, I do a lot of my Christmas shopping after Christmas when everything is on sale. It's wrapped in January and waiting for the next Christmas. I don't buy anything that will potentially be out of style or whatever, but I do get a lot of good things. My husband thinks I'm a loon.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Well, how immediately you are replaceable depends on how much education and training is necessary to perform the job. If you are a Walmart stock clerk odds are your training is measured in hours, not years.
    truth, but education and training are not the only factors that determine replaceability (not sure that's a word) such as in my example you quoted. hypothetically, a doctor may be more replaceable than a cashier if he/she happens to reside in an area where there are more people willing and qualified to work as a doctor than there are folks willing and qualified to work as a cashier.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    they're not allowed to change their minds?
    Are you serious? Hell NO they can't change their minds. When you were hired at your job, did you agree to come to work everyday? Clean-shaven, and wearing clean clothes? Were you told you would have to do "blah blah blah" for your job, and would be expected to do this to the best of your ability? Of course you were. Now what would happen to you if you just decided you didn't want to follow your company's rules anymore?

    you think they should be physically forced to work since they already agree to do so?
    Physically? No. You can't put your hands on somebody, or kick them in the nuts if they refuse to do their job. You just fire them. It's not that difficult a concept to understand.

    when you say "they can't back out of it" it sounds like you believe they should be physically forced to work.
    Again, you are hung up on this "physically" thing -- has nothing to do with being physical. I don't know why you keep bringing that up.

    if they strike (which is their right in a free market), yes they can be fired (which is the employer's right in a free market). why do you hate the free market?
    You are not making any sense. I am all for someone's right to strike if they choose to. I am also for the employer's right to fire said employee if they agree to do a job, that they then back out of doing.
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