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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I do the same thing as well, but you blame corporate greed. I blame consumer want.
    Its both. The same people who show up on Thanksgiving would show up on black Friday, so its not necessarily about consumer want.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its both. The same people who show up on Thanksgiving would show up on black Friday, so its not necessarily about consumer want.
    Actually it is. The people WANT this or they wouldn't show up for it.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Corporate greed ??? Really ???

    They are businesses who respond to customer requests/dictates. If people did not desire to shop on Thanksgiving the stores would not open... due to no profit...

    Blame the consumer not the one attempting to satiate consumer wants.

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    Actually you are wrong. The consuming public was happy to get up early on black friday to do their shopping. They weren't demanding stores open on Thanksgiving. They are showing up now because corporate greed has pushed black friday to thursday. The public didn't demand stores to do this.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If they were hired on with the agreement to work and that was subject to holiday hours, they have nothing to complain about. They AGREED to work those hours did they not?
    maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but this is the free market and we live in a free country and they are allowed to strike or not show up if they feel it serves their interest to do so. there is nothing immoral about striking (assuming you work in an occupation where public safety isn't threatened by a strike). they are perfectly within their rights not to show up to work.

    if they have nothing to complain about, then they will be fired and other workers who don't complain and do show up to work will take their place. why do you have a problem with that?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    are the full-time employees mostly supervisory and management employees, or do they also encompass a significant portion of line-level employees who make up the majority of the company's workers?
    You have yet to answer this question. When they were hired did they AGREE to work holiday hours, yes or no?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually it is. The people WANT this or they wouldn't show up for it.
    You are simply wrong. The people go because the stores decided to push their sales to Thanksgiving. People were perfectly fine going on Black Friday.

    People would go on Black "Wednesday" is the corporations decided to move it to Wed. Consumers are responding to the corporation, not the other way around.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Then they shouldn't be working in retail. Or hospitality. Or as medical personnel. Or in the airline industry. Or as cab drivers. Or with the telephone companies. Or with the DPWs.
    maybe. and if there are enough people who ARE willing to show up to work on a holiday then the retail industry should have no trouble firing these workers and hiring other ones right? free market baby! i love it.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are simply wrong. The people go because the stores decided to push their sales to Thanksgiving. People were perfectly fine going on Black Friday.
    Yet again, if the people did not want to go on Thanksgiving, would they go? Yes or no?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Since we are talking about non unionized employees it comes down to the State in question. Without a contract, in right to work States the worker can be fired even if the employee serves notice of intention to strike. In other States it comes down to the employment legislation protecting the worker. In either case, we also have to include the motivations of the employer in dealing with non organized striking labor. I suspect Walmart will gloss over this just as they have in prior years but it does bring notice to the issue of 5th income quintile, low wage rate, workers and the minimum wage debate.
    most of my labor law knowledge is specific to wv and colorado, but if someone blatantly violates an attendance policy, i know of no state where the employer would not be legally allowed to fire them on the spot.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yet again, if the people did not want to go on Thanksgiving, would they go? Yes or no?
    No. They're being forced to go. Most likely against their will.
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