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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry, did the workers get "assigned" to Walmart through some criminal rehab program or did they apply and agree to work retail store hours?

    If someone was hired with the GUARANTEE that they wouldn't work holidays, you might have a point. But I am fairly confident that this sort of arrangement was not done in the interview.

    Are you showing the same concern for the fire department, police department, and other people that HAVE to work holidays or are you ONLY interested in RETAIL?
    No, they just hate Walmart.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Feeling sorry for them is not part of the question. Part of the question is: What do you suggest for people who don't have the option of looking for another job? Are they supposed to allow corporations to abuse them?
    They not getting paid or something?
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They not getting paid or something?
    I'm surprised you'd be totally uninformed on a subject. However, I'm feeling generous so I'll help you out:

    Employees Sue Wal-Mart for Overtime - ABC News

    Maria Gamble of Farmingville, N.Y., is filing suit on behalf of 20,000 current and former Wal-Mart employees in New York state who claim that they were denied pay for overtime hours worked.

    Gamble claims that while she worked at Wal-Mart's store in Centereach, N.Y., she and other hourly workers were routinely locked in the store at night where they would have to restock merchandise and count out the cash registers, even though the workers had already gone off the clock. Gamble says the tasks often took two extra hours.
    Wal-Mart Loses Unpaid Overtime Case - CBS News

    Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, forced employees in Oregon to work unpaid overtime between 1994 and 1999, a federal jury found Thursday in the first of dozens of such lawsuits across the country to come to trial.

    A separate trial will be held to decide how much Wal-Mart should pay in damages.

    More than 400 employees from 24 of Wal-Mart's 27 Oregon stores had sued the retailer, accusing it of violating federal and state wage laws.
    Wal-Mart Forces Employees To Work Off The Clock: Suit - Law360

    A Florida woman filed a putative class action Thursday against Wal-Mart Stores Inc., accusing the retail giant of violating the Fair Labor Standards Act by requiring employees to work off the clock.
    In a complaint filed in Florida federal court, Wal-Mart store clerk Lisa Gilliam said management regularly prevented her from clocking in to start her shift for up to several hours after arriving in an attempt to reduce overtime hours.

    "Plaintiff reported to work as instructed but was required to spend time at work 'off the clock,'" Gilliam said in the complaint. "Plaintiff was not compensated for several hours each week while she waited to start work as instructed by management."
    This really is nothing new and Walmart has been getting sued right and left for labor abuses. With that said, no getting another job is not a reasonable response to people asking that their labor rights be respected. In many communities, Walmarts provide the only jobs available. As such, it should have to abide by the basic protections afforded to laborers in the US. If it doesn't, then a labor strike is a reasonable response to an employer who abuses the rights of its workers knowing they have limited options.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Not according to federal and Oregon law it's not.
    Seriously?? If that was the case, WM would have been sued LONG ago for this kind of thing and the parts of the employment contract that stipulate this would have been removed by a judge's order. Oddly enough, they haven't. Would you are to hazard a guess as to why that is?? Here's a clue: BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE CONTRACT BETWEEEN PRIVATE PARTIES TO ENGAGE IN LEGAL ACTIVITIES AND THUS THE GOV'T ALLOWS IT AS LONG AS BOTH PARTIES AGREE WITHOUT COERSION.

    Where do people get this stuff?? I'm NO fan of WM, but I do understand a lot of the legal aspects of employment. Obviously too many people have a lot of preconceptions that are dead wrong and propped up by a complete failure to apply any common sense.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    12. 81 and hour? That's not on the upper end of the scale. The union grocery and department stores in my area the scale tops off at 19 bucks an hour
    With prices to match... Sorry but folks on low income cannot afford to shop at union stores and they have to shop at places that they can afford. You and your kind would force them to choose between skipping breakfast or lunch every day to support the unions. Whatever happened to the compassion for the poor and downtrodden that used to be such a core value of the left?? Does it only apply to loyal union members or potential union members??
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    12. 81 and hour? That's not on the upper end of the scale. The union grocery and department stores in my area the scale tops off at 19 bucks an hour
    You do realize that tops off and average have different meanings, do you not?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    When I worked for Walmart a couple of years ago, we were basically required to sign documents explicitly waiving our right to unionize, as I recall. We were required to watch instructional videos warning us against them as well.

    I wonder if these employees could actually be fired for breach of contract on those grounds, or if the whole thing was simply a paper tiger.

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    Though... For the record, it should be noted that Walmart was actually one of the better retailers I ever worked for.

    I started off at almost $10.00 an hour, I got a full hour for lunch (if I wanted it), we all got stock benefits, employees were allowed to clock in either 15 minutes early or late without having it be a mark against them, and we couldn't work off the clock without risk of disciplinary action for both ourselves and any manager found responsible.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Union activities among WM employees is grounds for temination.
    So, they've signed a yellow dog contract?

    A yellow-dog contract (a yellow-dog clause of a contract, or an ironclad oath) is an agreement between an employer and an employee in which the employee agrees, as a condition of employment, not to be a member of a labor union.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    So...how did the strike go?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Feeling sorry for them is not part of the question. Part of the question is: What do you suggest for people who don't have the option of looking for another job? Are they supposed to allow corporations to abuse them?
    Who doesn't have the option to look for another job? I always had that option. When I finally figured out that I didn't like to work for someone else, I created my own company and hired people who were looking for another job. You yourself listed Wal Mart and Dollar General as options. Others listed several options in retail alone. Even if for some reason you cannot leave Walmart, there is no rule that says you have to stay one of the $9.00/hour entry level employees.

    Who doesn't have access to education. Generally, the poorer the person, the better the access. Rules get bent with "disadvantaged" potential students, lower entrance requirements, quotas, scholarships. Even if you live in the middle of nowhere, education is available with a $300 computer.

    You are just making excuses. Thousands of self starters prove you wrong every day.

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